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Comment by jasonladuke0311

2 years ago

Same here. I think there is a natural undercurrent of skepticism on HN, a lot of which is well-deserved.

The ROI of this could be tremendous for someone in tech. If this helps you get your shit together enough to be promoted a cycle early, for example, or find a new job, it could be a bargain.

I came emotionally prepared for today (I hope enough).

Thank you for your point. Actually one of our members was recently working on a career change and their coach helped them get a job relatively quickly. Of course, the success is the members' and not the coach's! But the member cited it as a massive help :)

> The ROI of this could be tremendous for someone in tech.

Sure, but if someone in tech is seeking help it's better to start with ADHD therapy (not "coaching") from licensed medical professionals, utilizing their insurance to offset the costs.

The issue a lot of us are trying to raise in this thread is that the program seems designed to take advantage of the lack of understanding about therapy versus coaching and cash-only versus insured programs. They make it easy to pay and get connected with someone, but if you're looking for true therapy (not "coaching") then you want to go through traditional channels. It will likely be cheaper with most tech insurance plans anyway.

  • Appreciate the thought & explanation here. This is definitely an issue and I'd love to explain a bit more about our thought process here (because we definitely don't want to take advantage, instead seek to raise awareness/ educate!)

    I definitely agree ADHD therapy can be hugely beneficial but most of our members have cited it as next to impossible to find a therapist (within their insurance / state / etc) who is even ADHD-informed, let alone practices ADHD-specialized therapy. Unfortunately, I've also gone through this process and found the same.

    We in no way aim to replace therapy or put ourselves against therapy. Many of our members are also in therapy (for OCD, anxiety, depression, other things) and we are more than supportive of that. For many of them, their therapists are the ones who recommended them to coaching, and how they found us.

    And lastly, yes. If you're looking for therapy, we're definitely not the place to go. We try to make that super clear on our website and in all of our communications (we have many drip campaigns, campaigns, Instagram posts, etc. trying to help raise awareness and shed light on the differences between therapy and coaching for ADHD). Additionally, anyone who comes through our flow (get an email) are given the option to speak with me directly before joining and I can answer any question they have / help them even if the answer is not Shimmer.