Comment by GekkePrutser
3 years ago
Also they have matte screens and real keyboards.
The 2015MBP one was the last one that was passable for me, what came after is horrible. Even the new MBP that has real ports again is still not as good as the 2015 in terms of keyboard.
Thinkpad keyboards are great (I own a couple T400’s and used to daily drive a X61s), but the latest MacBook Pros have real, actually good keyboards afaik too.
I've tried them but they're nowhere near Lenovo quality sadly. Unfortunately Lenovo is on a downward trend with ever less travel with each generation so I guess they'll be on par in a few years :(
That is indeed the trend, for basically all manufacturers. For my part, it's not too much of a worry -- I barely use my laptops keyboard directly, thats what my custom mechanical keeb is for, after all. The laptop being thin, light, and powerful is important to me (otherwise I'll just use a desktop). I despise my work laptop (a Metabox/rebranded Clevo 15" thing), as it is huge, thick, and has a terrible keyboard when I'm forced to use it.
These low-travel ones may not be perfect, but they're decent, and that's enough for me personally for the times I do need to use it.
I can’t agree. I have a recent X series, and at this point, it’s approaching butterfly-keyboard levels of unreliability. I’ve always found the travel to be on the spongy side, but this iteration is terrible. Also, my trackpad literally has to warm up before it’s usable. I’ve tried with the track point, but it just doesn’t work for me.
All currently shipping Macbook Airs and Pros have a keyboard that is, as far as I can tell, identical to the great one from 2015 that we love. They switched them all back after the butterfly keyboard fiasco, but hardware pipelines are 2-4 years deep and it took a while.