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Comment by ed25519FUUU

3 years ago

California is facing a similar issue dealing with its solar duck curve[1], where prices essentially go negative during periods of peak solar generation.

As far as I know residential PG&E customers can't buy energy in spot market prices, or else there could be some innovative arbitrage opportunities, like only running bitcoin miners when power is cheap.

1. https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/confronting-duck-curve-...

If only there were some actually useful use of excessive energy that weren’t mining bitcoin.

  • One example is producing hydrogen from water with excess power. It can then be added to the natural gas network, or used by trucks or trains, or stored for a power plant.

    Orkney is trialling this.

  • Charging cars, heating water in a well insulated tank

    • It's great when we can use off peak energy for things like this, but they're not as easy to locate onsite as bitcoin miners .. and difficulty with transmission is a big part of the problem

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  • Why not Bitcoin? You can sell it for cash. Do you not like cash? You can plant trees with cash or lots of other green things.

    • If you live in a developed market with no need for the utility bitcoin provides, then to you bitcoin is only a waste of energy, and energy generation is a significant contributor to greenhouse gas emissions. In this case you see it as all cost and no benefit, and any counterpoint goes against your dogma, which is 'inconvenient' or irritating

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Spot prices are the best in order to save the planet so to speak. People will waste energy when it's cheap aka pay with their wallets. A lot of EU household's pays market price for the electricity.