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Comment by kevincox

4 years ago

I'll give you a pass for state events but sticker packs are still going through MSC and it seems that people on the team are happy to add E2EE later?

https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/254...

Or is that out of date and there is a new proposal with encryption?

I assume you’re talking about https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/254.... There is nobody from the spec core team or for that matter the matrix core team on that thread; Sorunome, deepbluev7 and Cadair are community contributors. You can spot the folks who actually are project members (ie core team) by the “member” label next to their names in Github. It is unlikely that the MSC will pass review (when we finally get to it) unless it’s e2ee… unless MSC3414 automatically handles it.

  • Well that's good to hear. Maybe it would be good to drop an "official" note on the RFC to make it clear that it is unlikely to be accepted without E2EE since I seem to be the only voice mentioning that and was quickly dismissed.

    I understand that the core team is busy but if big problems like this could be pointed out early it could save a lot of time all around.

Do you mean that they send it unencrypted or that it isn't end-to-end encrypted?

Please be precise.

This is probably the most annoying thing about HN lately, the insistence on pretending that only end to end encryption matters.

Meanwhile we see end-to-end encrypted solutions like WhatsApp being cheered forward but ultimately failing badly because all incentives are aligned against security.