Comment by thewataccount
3 years ago
> https://www.honda.com/privacy/connected-product-privacy-noti...
~~~ Their's is a lot better, does still include Geolocation, audio recordings, navigation usage, however the usage looks limited to just Honda and the obviously required services: ~~~
> We will not use Geolocation Information for our own marketing purposes or disclose identifiable Geolocation Information with third parties (except our service providers) without your consent.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230512194748/https://www.honda...
EDIT: I just noticed the following:
> These companies may use Covered Information for their everyday business purposes, including marketing, customer service, fulfillment and related purposes. These disclosures may qualify as a sale under certain state privacy laws.
Also their definition of "Service Provider" is way too broad (see below comment). So I might need to retract my statement on their policy being good.
> or disclose identifiable Geolocation Information with third parties (except our service providers) without your consent.
There's also that little qualifier "identifiable" in there. Companies usually take a very different stance on what constitutes "identifiable" than people think.
What that's really saying is that they will share the geolocation information with third parties without your consent, but they'll probably do a little handwavy "anonymization" thing on it first.
> they'll probably do a little handwavy "anonymization" thing on it first
But… it’s just metadata. It can’t possibly be cross referenced, in bulk, with high accuracy, in 5 minutes, right? And even if it could, I bet there’s no money to be made selling people’s data, so there will never be any shadow industry that “brokers data” of regular uninteresting people, that’d be ridiculous!
What's a service provider in this context? Contracted automotive shops? Police?
Service providers are:
Satellite, traffic, and telecommunications companies; Roadside assistance vendors; Contact centers; Research and development vendors; Providers of software integrated into our vehicles and systems; Marketing and non-marketing communications, analytics, and consulting firms; Professional service firms such as attorneys and accountants; Day-to-day business operations vendors such as courier services, facilities management suppliers, and information technology and network support.
Although it's worth mentioning:
> These companies may use Covered Information for their everyday business purposes, including marketing, customer service, fulfillment and related purposes. These disclosures may qualify as a sale under certain state privacy laws.
So I might need to retract my statement on their policy being good.
As for law enforcement:
> We may use and disclose Covered Information and any other information about you to government or law enforcement officials or private parties if, in our discretion, we believe it is necessary or appropriate to respond to legal requests (including court orders, investigative demands and subpoenas), to protect the safety, property, or rights of ourselves, consumers, or any other third party, to prevent or stop any illegal, unethical, or legally actionable activity, or to comply with law.