Comment by sandworm101
3 years ago
Well, how do the shrink-wrapped EULA's work when you sell a computer? What is Microsoft's position on you selling your windows license to a third party? I expect that car manufacturers will eventually take a similar line. But it won't be a big deal for very long. As we will soon all be paying subscriptions to use our cars, license transfers will be balled up into the transfer fees paid when you move your ongoing subscription commitment to the person buying your physical car. The manufacturers will supervise the process.
>>What is Microsoft's position on you selling your windows license to a third party?
It's 100% allowed within the EU, even for OEM licences. There have been multiple court cases about this and microsoft lost every single one. But I guess that's not what you were implying?
I wonder why I can’t buy a game license in a similar way from somebody.
Because while the courts agree that legally licences are transferable, they haven't ruled that Valve and others should build a technical facility to allow this. Microsoft put themselves in this position by accident because they allow licence keys to be activated multiple times - so you're free to sell your licence to someone else and Microsoft has to activate it. While Valve can just refuse to build this functionality into Steam and no court has ordered them to do so.
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You absolutely can. If a game comes with a real license key (not an [insert platform here] activation/import key), you are entirely free to sell it the same way you can sell your Windows key.
Because of German court as always https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/german-court-rules-against-...
excuse is "games are art, not computer software Oracle vs Usedsoft doesn apply".
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The data collection would also be illegal in the EU I presume.
How will this happen if we don't accept it?
What does this mean? How do you "not accept this"? Are you jumping up and down now interior pictures are leaked from your Toyota? Do you not pay for recurring fees of licenses? Do you send an angry phone call in the general direction of Toyota HQ?
I drive a 30+ year old car. It can easily last another 10 years.
0 tracking by the manufacturer. No subscription services needed. No annoying beeping when you forget to put on your seatbelt for 10 seconds. No touchscreen, all physical buttons. No Android/Apple spyware. No cameras. No ads on any display. No car-key that can run out of battery.
It's nice.
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Don't buy a new Toyota. Make it widely known why you're not buying it. Remove the modem and publish instructions on how to do so. Start or join an initiative to legally punish this.
Literally anything is better than sitting and solemnly spelling out what "will" and "must" be.
There's clearly no meeting of the minds (I didn't even know about this "agreement", let alone read and agree to it) so I don't understand how the terms could possibly be binding. Failure of the courts, I guess.