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Comment by smeej

3 years ago

My current "solution" to this is driving a 16yo car, before all this stuff became ubiquitous and impossible to opt out of, but obviously it gets harder every year to find cars from that era that still run reliably.

What other options are there? I would SO willingly pay thousands of dollars specifically to have these features disabled on a new car, but it seems like they're actually designed for that to be impossible.

What options are there for acquiring and driving a car with no internet or satellite connections?

(I'm not trying to stop some other-purpose satellite from being able to see my car if it wanted. I'm trying to prevent a car company--which is NOT a security company--from having a record of everywhere my car has been at every moment of every day where someone can steal it.)

That’s my solution too. I love my old cars. I did get a newish (2012) Jeep to build onto an off road rig. It happens to be the one that you can hack by knowing the VIN which is displayed in the windshield. You can connect to the CAN over the air and unlock and start it with a program widely available on the internet. Luckily, because it’s a Jeep the antenna mount rusted and the antenna fell off. I can’t start it over the air since it no longer talks to the network.

I guess that’s a long way of saying that if we ever have to get new cars, all we need to do is find the wireless antenna and disconnect it.