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Comment by rektide

2 years ago

Thanks. That was a lot of time spent; I appreciate your commitment to inquiry/discovery.

I still struggle with what I see as a Thomas fighting a war of technicalities to avoid the actual point, and I tried to leave significant rope to allow his annoyances. And I don't K ow how to walk back what I still feel like is an injustice that hurts the truth so badly, don't see how temperance can be found against this. But I get my post's polarization better and see how the room is so happy to stick to Thomas here.

Cheers. I'm glad it was at least somewhat helpful. And you've got me responding when I said I wouldn't, and that's something :)

> "I still feel like is an injustice that hurts the truth so badly,"

In my opinion, this is what you should be supporting. Providing examples that support the truth goes a lot further. Off the top of my head, a question I have is why is the cathedral/bazaar model better than the alternative 'tptacek puts forward from Gabriel's Worse Is Better or Zawinski's CADT model at describing open source? (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35941338) What in particular do you find useful and true in CatB that you believe 'tptacek is dismissing unfairly?

> "how the room is so happy to stick to Thomas here."

One doesn't have to agree with 'tptacek to think your comment was unhelpful. It's not zero-sum, or us-vs-them.

I'm not great at contentious discussions (particularly on internet forums). Your "I still struggle with..." resonates with me: it's something I find myself thinking in situations like this. The best I can do is try to catch myself, and figure out how to express what I'm trying to get across in ways that move the conversation in a constructive direction. Easier for me to say than to do.