Comment by dmreedy

2 years ago

I'm not saying I want it, I'm saying it is an ingredient to the function and survival of a society, especially as the number of members of a society grows and diversifies.

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dmreedy

aschearer 2 years ago

This whole discussion highlights my original point. We're talking nonsense.

  > This process is an act of mystification; you separate the meaning from the direct examples, and push it into a layer of linguistic abstraction.

What does this even mean? What is "an act of mystification?" What does it mean to "push something into a layer of linguistic abstraction?" And who the hell is Quine and what does a web have to do with anything?

Anyway, it's great fun! I just wish we were sitting in comfy chairs with a drink...

With that said, back to the fun. I think you're suffering from binary thinking. In the event that two people want the same thing there are many options available. And even more stories that could be spun to justify them. "It's only just that..." or "I came first" or "We've always done it that way".

If we take the absolute worst case: zero sum, fleeing isn't an option, then it's a fight to the death. We all know this to be the case intuitively -- no mysticism involved. Fight or flight is deeply embedded inside us. Again, my dogs aren't confused by this dilemma. This is part of living authentically.

I think society survives and flourishes when it keeps such cases to a minimum. It's why things such as a the rule of law, democracy, human rights, and so forth have arisen.

Thanks for this thought provoking discussion! Sadly my lunch break is over~