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Comment by usernew

3 years ago

I've said it once, and I've said it again for well over a decade. The only google account recovery is creating a new account in 5 minutes. If doing that does not restore the full extent of the purpose for which you were using google's services, you're doing it wrong.

Google accounts serve one purpose: if you are trying to use a google resource that requires an account. Example: save some marked places on google maps.

I can't think of other examples. As the article states, google's explanation for their user-hostile policies, is that at their scale, there is no other option. The other option is, provide services at a scale you can support, and if going larger is not affordable, then you are not able to go larger.

Imagine going into a store. You purchase a microwave. You get it home, open the box, and in the box is a dead cat. You take it back to the store, and there's no one to talk to and no customer service desk. You walk back out of the store with your dead cat in the box, and when you show the receipt to the guy in the store, he accuses you of stealing a microwave because the receipt is from yesterday. No, he won't look inside the box, there's another customer walking out whose receipt he needs to check. Then they ban you from all their stores for trying to steal a microwave, because they have you on camera walking.

You write a letter to corporate, and they tell you that at their scale, they cannot have a customer service desk, or hire another receipt checker.

The thing is, there's actually no real reason to use google for anything. You don't need to ban it from your life, you just don't use it for anything that needs an account with data you need to keep. I use google products for maps and to chromecast to my tv. I use it for search. When I get a new machine or browser, that account just gets recreated because I don't bother storing their password or login name. Like for this site.

I have had a Google account for quite a while. I got a fairly early Gmail account when it was apply for an invite only. I had a G+ account that was taken around the back and a single shot heard. That was well after my home page of links thingie was unceremoniously put down (I can't even remember what that was called).

I would not dream of actually putting anything useful into a Google account. The most basic of due-dil process should ring an alarm bell enough to awaken the dead.

Entrusting your corporate data to Google is playing a form of Russian Roulette. Do ensure you have local backups. I understand why unprofitable products get dropped by Google - my company does the same thing. However, I'm not running a hyper-scaler cloud. A common misconception about the cloud is that you simply divest all responsibility and shove your stuff into it and all will be well.

Due diligence and caveat emptor.

what do you suggest for cloud storage?

I've had better luck over the years with google drive to store my documents than a physical backup drive. But the thought of losing access to my account scares me

  • You will always need backups, regardless of where your primary storage is. These backups could be local or remote.

    You have to decide how important your data is. You might divide it into a few categories and decide what you can or cannot afford to lose for each category. For example your password database and family holiday pics are often more important than nearly everything else! Then you decide how much money to throw at all this. It's all a big risk assessment thing.

    If you will insist on cloud then please use two of them or one and a local backup system. For really important stuff you can buy a brand that you have heard of 128GB USB stick for about £13 (just checked on Amazon). That's bugger all cash! Buy 10 of them.

    Please take responsibility for your data. Use cloudy stuff for convenience but do not lose sight of who really is responsible for it - you.

  • I unfortunately can't answer that. My work gives me double-digit TB OneDrive, and if I need personal stuff on there, I put it in a password-protected 7z file. I don't actually use it all that much though. I just rsync between two laptops in the background and a copy of everything gets pushed to my phone when I plug in to charge at night. I only have about 500GB of data that I care about not losing - like a dump of all my emails in a pst going back 7 years, and some photos and personal video. Rsync does it all w/ 3 copies on local devices, and I don't think about it.