Comment by intalentive
3 years ago
Yeah, it's fascinating how frequently the paranoid wingnuts of the past turned out to be right. Then you have people like Aldous Huxley and things like the Jaffe memo, painting basically the same picture but from an "inside" perspective.
These wingnuts you mentioned weren't democrats or republicans - they supported George Wallace and his "American Independent Party".
I for one like having the ability to vote without paying a poll tax or taking a poll exam and drinking from any damn water fountain I wish, which are rights Segregationist White Supremacist orgs like PAY, the John Birch Society, and the Citizen Councils wanted only for White Protestant Anglo-Saxon Americans.
The fact you were able to pull up a primary document published by a movement from an era that is largely not taught in depth about is honestly very suspect, unless you are studying for a BA in American History, which I honestly doubt.
Your comment seriously gives an impression of having been written by the CIA.
>They weren't democrats or republicans
You know, if you think the whole world is either republican or democrat and anything not coming from those affiliations is suspect, then you have limited your world view pretty drastically.
> The fact you were able to pull up a primary document published by a movement from an era that is largely not taught in depth about is honestly very suspect, unless you are studying for a BA in American History, which I honestly doubt.
This as well. You're on a "hacker" forum, it is nothing unusual that people here are interested in fringe topics and find interesting sources outside the mainstream. Trying to pry into the identity of another poster to determine if he or she has the right to say certain things is beyond creepy. Have you considered a career at the CIA or other equivalent? From your comment you seem like a good fit.
There is an increasingly intense glow on this forum, which I suppose shouldn't be surprising considering SV history: https://unherd.com/2019/04/the-secret-history-of-silicon-val...
That they were horrible people is irrelevant to the question: were they right about the "Communist goals"? That so many of the items in this list came to pass, either completely or in part, is prima facie evidence for 1) the existence of long term social planning in the West, or 2) the ability of the Birchers to correctly extrapolate from current trends to future events.
I mean, this isn't a list of "communist goals," this is a list of what is claimed, by American right-wingers and the American government during a time of vehement anti-communist sentiment - to be "communist goals," but it reads like a right-wing American screed. The first two items imply opposition to atomic war is a communist plot. It quotes without sources. It makes claims that it doesn't back up.
I see no particular reason to take this at face value.
The Birchers (and fellow travellers) were, according to Dr. Strangelove, also convinced that water fluoridation is a commie plot, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?