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Comment by nullcipher

2 years ago

may I ask what position/salary you were offered?

It was September 2013 actually. Offer:

Software Engineer with EUR 45.000 yearly salary + bonus up to EUR 5.000 and 6 months probation and cancellation period of 3 months from both sides.

I'm Dutch and lived in the Netherlands and it would have meant moving abroad.

  • I've seen this over and over again: German software engineer salaries are just too low.

    • At this point I don't even answer the recruiter emails/messages I get from Germany. The offers are simply not worth the time.

      I say this as a European, who has never had US or FANG level wages.

  • I have a dumb question. Do advertised salaries in EU include tax or are tax deducted. Because I'm the US you get paid $100k but there are taxes and healthcare costs that need to be deducted.

    • Generally those numbers are gross. The ones I posted were as well. Health care is of course a lot better for less money (unless you're rich).

  • It doesn't sound too bad for that time if it was an entry level position. I started with a similar salary as a DevOps engineer in Munich at the end of 2019. Munich isn't cheap though, I pay 1,5k € in rent for a 54 sqm 2,5 room apartment in a good neighbourhood.

    • At that point I had 3 years of experience and a masters in Econometrics. A year later I got a much better offer in Amsterdam.