Comment by nocontextpls
3 years ago
> If you use an app like SkyBox you make sure the screen is outputting full 1080p detail. Nothing is blurry or messy at all. You can do the math if you don't believe me.
1080p detail? Are you aware this detail is spread all over your field of vision? ~18 pixels per degree is laughable quality. And let's not talk about the Screen Door Effect!
> The vast majority of content out there is only 1080p
What???
> And my AirPods Pro, with noise cancelling, together with the Quest's own spatial audio, absolutely destroy any regular speakers I've ever owned.
You probably haven't owned many speakers, then.
> I guess we have different experiences, but it sounds to me like your strap is possibly much too tight.
If you don't wear it tight, it's easy for it to move slightly and you lose the sweet spot of the lenses, which is very narrow, increasing blurriness even further.
I don't wear my glasses tightly, and they still leave a mark on my nose.
> 1080p detail? Are you aware this detail is spread all over your field of vision?
I'm aware that the field of view on the Quest 2 is fairly narrow, so expanding the virtual screen to close to the full width of the field of view winds up to actual 1080p yes. And it's a great comfortable size for a virtual screen. You're free to confirm the math yourself, but you're not losing detail.
>> The vast majority of content out there is only 1080p
> What???
That's factual. Even most new TV shows aren't in 4K yet, nor is most of the movie catalog. Fortunately it's slowly growing.
> You probably haven't owned many speakers, then.
Right, I've dropped a few hundred on speakers. I'm much happier dropping a couple hundred on AirPods than many thousands on a set of surround-sound speakers to get comparable quality... that I can't even use at the same volume because it would bother people.
As a data point, the time I bought a 10" subwoofer for use in my home theatre was when my thoughts on headphone use changed.
Prior to that I'd used some decent (but not "fantastic" headphones).
Nothing compares to the whole-body experience of watching a movie with good bass speaker setup. Large bass speakers literally vibrate your whole body rather than just your head.
It's a huge, huge improvement over headphone. :)
> As a data point, the time I bought a 10" subwoofer for use in my home theatre was when my thoughts on headphone use changed.
Now get a bass shaker: https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-BST-1-Tactile-Shaker/dp/...
I have one mounted directly to my bed, and it simply can't be compared with speakers.
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> I'm aware that the field of view on the Quest 2 is fairly narrow, so expanding the virtual screen to close to the full width of the field of view winds up to actual 1080p yes. And it's a great comfortable size for a virtual screen. You're free to confirm the math yourself, but you're not losing detail.
Resolution and detail are not the same thing. We need to talk about Pixels Per Degree here. A 65" 1080p TV at reasonable viewing distance (3m) has ~70 PPD. The Quest 2 can barely do 20 PPD!
I can personally count the pixels of the Quest 2 (and the space between them!). I have to get extremely close to my 4k TV in order to be able to see the pixels.
> That's factual. Even most new TV shows aren't in 4K yet, nor is most of the movie catalog. Fortunately it's slowly growing.
Most of the new TV shows I watch come in 4K 10bit HDR with Dolby Vision. It's rare when one doesn't have the option.
No, resolution and detail are the same thing in this case. Either you can clearly make out details or you can't.
Pixels per degree are irrelevant for regular 2D entertainment content when you can vary the virtual screen size. Obviously your 4K TV which occupies a very small slice of your vision has more PPD. And obviously a virtual screen which is more like IMAX-sized has less PPD. But it doesn't matter at all once you're already seeing every pixel of your content. Because if you're already seeing every pixel of the source material, an increase in PPD achieves literally nothing except for a sharper user interface (not content).
> Most of the new TV shows I watch
And different people watch different content. I'm happy for you that yours are mostly 4K. But even prestige shows like White Lotus and Succession are still only 1080p.
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