Comment by rcarr
3 years ago
Well fire the marketing departments of all those other companies then if that's true. Because I've seen their demos and none of them showed anything anywhere near what I saw today.
You can be salty if you want, but Palmer Lucky came out and said this thing is "so good" last week. He knows a thing or two about this stuff and I'm inclined to believe him.
> Well fire the marketing departments of all those other companies
Yes. Meta has been awful at it.
> You can be salty if you want
Unfortunate that you turn to that type of sentiment here. It sours otherwise interesting discussion.
> Palmer Lucky came out and said this thing is "so good" last week
You should definitely understand his history before taking what he says at face value. But nobody is saying this isn't good. It's really good. In fact it's great. But it's not surprising. It's just putting together the best quality of things we've already seen across multiple other products at a very high price.
So, like the iPhone did then? I’m not suggesting this will be a repeat, but I do remember similar commentary. VR has felt like a bunch of tech demo’s (you can see the potential, but no one’s managed to put it all together). I’m interested to see if Apple can make that ‘step change’ as they did with phones.
> like the iPhone did then?
To be fair, only one other phone had a capacitive touchscreen, and Apple provided the first OS that could really leverage it. The situation between Apple Vision and the numerous long-running incumbents with similar technology is very different to the unveiling of the iPhone.
>You should definitely understand his history before taking what he says at face value
Do you mean don't trust what he says about technology because of his political views?
I actually went and booted up my Quest 1 today to check if it had the hand tracking. It did! I logged into HN with it and browsed around for a while. It all felt startlingly futuristic after watching WWDC hype it up so much, I'll admit that much. The experience without controllers is good enough that I question the diminishing returns at $1,500 for the Quest Pro, let alone $3,500 for the Vision Pro.
> Palmer Lucky came out and said this thing is "so good" last week
While we're talking bigwigs, Mark Gurman had some stuff to say about the Quest 3 too:
> I came away impressed with the mixed-reality focus of the Quest 3, the much-improved video pass-through capabilities, the faster performance and the large content library. Assuming the device costs about $500, it would be about a fifth as much as the Apple headset — while being more than a fifth as compelling.
Make of that what you will. I'm going to go watch Avatar in bed.
That's all the validation I need. When John Carmack and Tim Sweeney said the PS5 was "so good" it was the same thing for me. You can geek out all you want on the specs but you're wasting your time. Let the experts weigh in and shut the f*ck up.
PS5 is pretty good