Comment by tomcam
2 years ago
In his book “Practical Ethics” he recommends infanticide up to 2 years old as a logical extension to abortion.
2 years ago
In his book “Practical Ethics” he recommends infanticide up to 2 years old as a logical extension to abortion.
The “cutoff” always comes up in abortion debates, and when someone argues for a very late term abortion, the other side is sure to bring up infanticide. Polite people/amateur philosophers leave it there. Professional philosophers pick up the slack and deal with the heinous leftover questions…
Legislators, and therefore voters must also deal with the heinous leftover questions.
If it’s in relation to abortion cutoff times it’s an important question to ask. I’ve never met someone with a rational answer to that question. It mostly boils down to what they personally feel comfortable with emotionally (and that’s fine, but not something you can apply in law for all people).
> It mostly boils down to what they personally feel comfortable with emotionally (and that’s fine, but not something you can apply in law for all people).
Every democratic country has laws which are motivated by the way people feel emotionally. Check out this map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Europe#/media/File...
12 weeks in Germany, 24 weeks in the UK. Why is there such a difference? Because these laws are based on how people feel.
Well yes, obviously there are laws based (maybe) on majority opinion or average opinion. What I mean is that opinions will vary and you can’t satisfy everyone. There is no objective right or wrong cutoff hence why there is philosophical debate about it.
Canada's is legal up until the fetus leaves the womb. It's also possible to kill a fetus inside the womb and suffer no consequence for said killing.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/arianna-goberdhan-fetus-homi...
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Yes. Do you have a point to add to that? Do you feel there’s some reason he’s obviously wrong for example?
Are you being serious? Or is this just some wicked kind of sarcasm?
To the downvoters: do you have any experience with little kids? As a father of a 2 year old, it is pretty obvious what's wrong with infanticide...
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Relevant context. Singer has a lot of clout because people read some of his stuff in a first year philosophy class. For those who didn't get the memo that the man is a crazy misanthrope, him taking the idea of infanticide seriously is a pretty good indicator of what his specific grift actually is.
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Ugh, that's awful.
Apologies, but I could not find any recommendations for killing babies. Please clarify.
Practical Ethics 3rd ed [2011], Peter Singer https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=02C20FF721FBFC562268D14...
Perhaps an earlier edition advocated infanticide?
https://libgen.is/search.php?&req=singer+Practical+Ethics&ph...
Whether you agree with him or not, the argument is more nuanced.
I believe the relevant section is page 169 of this: https://www.stafforini.com/docs/Singer%20-%20Practical%20eth...
Some of the text is copied and pasted below, but it should be read and interpreted in context:
ABORTION AND INFANTICIDE
There remains one major objection to the argument I have
advanced in favour of abortion. We have already seen that the strength of the conservative position lies in the difficulty liberals have in pointing to a morally significant line of demarcation between an embryo and a newborn baby. The standard liberal position needs to be able to point to some such line, because liberals usually hold that it is permissible to kill an embryo or fetus but not a baby. I have argued that the life of a fetus (and even more plainly, of an embryo) is of no greater value than the life of a nonhuman animal at a similar level of rationality, self-consciousness, awareness, capacity to feel. etc., and that since no fetus is a person no fetus has the same claim to life as a person. Now it must be admitted that these arguments apply to the newborn baby as much as to the fetus. A week-old baby is not a rational and self-conscious being, and there are many nonhuman animals whose rationality, self-consciousness, awareness, capacity to feel. and so on, exceed that of a human baby a week or a month old. If the fetus does not have the same claim to life as a person, it appears that the newborn baby does not either, and the life of a newborn baby is of less value to it than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee is to the nonhuman animal.
That’s so interesting. Thanks for the book recommendation.
Seems logical. What is the problem?
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