Comment by dmonitor
3 years ago
If you can't afford to qualify the components on your 4000m diving vehicle, you can't afford to make a 4000m diving vehicle.
See: the fact that they lost their diving vehicle.
3 years ago
If you can't afford to qualify the components on your 4000m diving vehicle, you can't afford to make a 4000m diving vehicle.
See: the fact that they lost their diving vehicle.
Pressure hull >> ballast control >> thrusters >> everything else
I'm not sure why everyone is taking potshots at a company for trying something crazy with willing passengers.
Everyone involved knew what they were getting into.
Kudos to them for trying, even if they're dead.
> See: the fact that they lost their diving vehicle.
That's an awful lot of keyboard engineering, given nobody knows what happened yet.
> That's an awful lot of keyboard engineering, given nobody knows what happened yet.
Unless I'm mistaken, the subject article starts with the words "Submarine missing". The fact that the whole thing was jury rigged and double checked by nobody with certifications is enough to start pointing fingers at the engineers.
This isn't the company's first trip either. They've taken multiple trips down and have almost lost the submarine multiple times. This time they actually managed to lose it for good.
The reason people are mad at the company is because their negligence killed 4 people for no good reason.
I'm also annoyed at the company for all the public emergency resources being forced to help rescue this contraption.
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Yes. "Missing"
Assuming it sunk, it'll be order of week before it's found. It'll be order of month before it's raised, if it can be. And then after analysis we might know why it sunk.
+60 hours after lost contact, while there are possibly still people alive inside the vehicle, seems premature and crass to be casting accusations for internet points.
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>Everyone involved knew what they were getting into.
Not necessarily. For extreme sports like skydiving, bungee jumping, hang-gliding scuba and the like customers still expect a high level of adherence to safety and quality products and certifications exist. Would you want to parachute off an uncertified plane with an un-licensed pilot and inexperienced jumper?
Well, I am carrying a parachute and getting out halfway, so if they can land is not my concern…
If they said they were, and I did, presumably.
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> Everyone involved knew what they were getting into.
I'm sure everyone involved was expert on industrial design and were clued into what exact costs were cut /s
"Everyone involved knew what they were getting into."
Did they? I might have missed that part.
>> OceanGate says it is an experimental vessel, and when CBS travelled onboard the correspondent had to sign a waiver accepting that it "has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma or death".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65960217
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o
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> Everyone involved knew what they were getting into.
Did they?
my guess is no. purely speculation on my part, but my suspicion is that the dangers were downplayed and the sales/marketing people paid the bare minimum attention to how close this was to a backyard project.
“we wouldn’t charge you $250,000 if we weren’t serious.”
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Those situations are really not comparable. Jumping off a cliff has a near 100% death rate. This sub on the other hand has done this before.
A better comparison might be climbing mount everest in the 80s.
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> If you can't afford to qualify the components on your 4000m diving vehicle
... which you are taking paying passengers with
This is not necessarily the case. For many people it's worth the risk of death to do cool things (e.g. climb Mount Everest).
What these people did, is like if you climbwd mound everest and died because they forgot to pack any food, you oxygen doesnt work becauae it's a $10 canister from best-buy, and your tent has holes in it.
Its not what tou did, its how you did it.