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Comment by metabagel

3 years ago

When you get right down to it, the people who boarded this submersible on Sunday probably didn’t want to die. No matter what waiver they signed.

nobody wants to die ('cept for people looking to suicide). The waiver is an acknowledgement that what they're doing is dangerous, and could cause them to die. As an adult, you have the right to accept this risk, if the reward for doing so is worth it in your eyes.

Unless, of course, if those signing the waivers were mislead.

  • Yes, but the waiver probably didn't say 'you have at least a 10% chance of dying'.

    • You're going almost 4000m underwater.

      What percent should it have said? 10%? 5%? 30%? 90%?

      Anything other than "We've tried to make it safe, but there's a lot higher than 0% chance of death" would seem a lie.

      People die climbing Everest regularly, and I don't see anyone claims the climbing industry is under-disclosing.

      Because these are inherently lethal activities, that a reasonable participant engages in despite knowing the risks.

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