Comment by bhouston
2 years ago
https://lemmy.ml OR https://lemmy.world and https://kbin.social and are quite nice. Been posting there myself and it is great.
Lemmy is having some stability issues across its instances because of this growth curve: https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/693866c7-8f65-4046-8781-58aee70...
I'm trying really hard to like Lemmy, but whenever I'm reading through posts on "active", "hot", etc. it will initially load with the correct content. But then, I get about 10 seconds before the entire list frantically reflows and fills with brand new posts from all over the place. Extraordinarily annoying. I get that creating a new post is itself "activity" which is probably why it does that, I don't think posts of that nature meet the description of "hot".
Maybe I just need to be going by Top->Day
This is a bug, and should be fixed in the next version. It happens in Top Day too sometimes.
A simple trick is to browse page 0 instead of page 1, by editing the URL.
Funny enough, I just tried editing the url and the first post on the resultant page was https://lemmy.world/post/433283 (a post in the Fediverse community asking why they keep seeing new posts show up in all sorting types)
I will say that doing so on the "new comments" sorting type did still yield a good number of no-comment posts.
Apparently they’re removing it.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1357
I also had trouble with Lemmy's UI and made a different frontend for myself. Here's some screenshots.
1. https://postimg.cc/PPRMGw7k
2. https://postimg.cc/mcNMrzmk
3. https://postimg.cc/7CVG4vLT
I was thinking of making it more widely available but didn't know if there'd be enough users to make it worthwhile and if interest in Lemmy would last.
This has to be a bug, right? I experience the same thing and just wrote it off as broken, deciding to try again in a few days when they figure things out.
The current sorting algo is sorta not great. An instance i'm on that forked, and then unforked recently is dealing with this right now. We had our own react frontend with really nice custom themes, but in order to federate we had to go back to the main codebase.
It's not great but it will hopefully improve. A lot of growing pains but overall its a really exciting time.
So long as it's a known thing, I trust it will improve. It's just unfortunate that it had to be this broken during Lemmy's most opportune moment to capture new users.
That, among other things, is creating a lot of friction for new users at the moment though.
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I believe hot is currently bugged, I use recent comments as sorting and I find that nice.
I just tried that. 2 of the top 6 posts that popped up had zero comments. Within a few seconds, brand new posts (with no engagement) starting filling in from the stop.
It seems like the content algorithm is fundamentally broken right now.
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I've been sorting by "new comments" -- which brings us squarely back to the "bump old threads" style phpbb forums. Which I suppose is okay.
I look at the subscribed communities I am part of. I find that just looking at all communities a little overwhelming.
I used to primarily browse /r/all because I like to see when niche communities produce things exceptional enough to hit it (and I'd just filter subreddits I didn't want)
Especially now, there are a -lot- of new Lemmy communities popping up so I like to be able to see that kind of activity.
A really nice instance that might be interesting to people here is http://programming.dev
I think these instances that serve a "family" of topics has a great chance of shining within fediverse. I'm rooting for programming.dev to bring together the programming community.
I am unavailable to sign up on lemmy.world; the websocket connection closes and reconnects, no error, any ideas?
It seems to be down right now. It grew 50% from yesterday to today, so... well, growing pains.
edit: it's back up.
It's tough to read as a lurker. The page keeps scrolling around and re-rendering. I think the "realtime" promise is pretty misguided.
It’s known and this “feature” will be removed in an update.
What browser/OS? Maybe try a different combination.
I am using Google Chrome on Mac, and it literally crashes when I click on the submit button, so I assumed the server crashes. Tried about 5 times across multiple days, and I have never been able to sign up.
I am going to try and use lemmy, but it's tough giving up old content in Reddit.
I guess we can start posting old content.
Moving entire communities there is going to be challenging
I think the communities would benefit from becoming smaller. I avoided any large subreddits because the noise ratio was awful. The smaller ones were much better.
The trick is to both (1) promote equivalent communitie to existing Reddits - let them know there are alternaives to being a serf -- and (2) start posting on there. Be the change you want to see!
The federated future for social is coming, albeit slowly in fits and starts. What is nice is that many of the communities on these two are shared because it is the fediverse.
EDIT: Downvoted why?
I'm certain you got downvoted over the word 'serf'. I upvoted because my reaction to that framing is more positive, but it's not a framing I would use, myself, because I would expect to get some flak for it.
What about migrating historic data from Reddit ? Is that possible?
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I don't really think anybody expects that to happen. As long as a large enough number of people move, it can succeed.
But people don’t care. Homelab subreddit created a forum and after 5 days, the number of registered users on that forum is 18. Selfhosted subreddit did the same thing and activity on their forum is similarly low. If people on “selfhosted” subreddit don’t want to move to a selfhosted alternative, I don’t know if there is any hope for other communities.
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~~Doesn't support Safari.~~
edit: Nevermind Safari works. 1Blocker blocks comments with the "Block Comments" ruleset. Usually it is supposed to hide comments where they are not the primary focus. So some rule should probably be adapted for Lemmy instances to work.
edit2: Reported it to 1Blocker.
Which one? I use Lemmy.world from Safari successfully.
Feature, not a bug.
I would sign up for lemmy but it requires an email
Did you manage to sign up for reddit without one?
You used to be able to do this, but e-mail has been required for some time.
Over on Lemmy, it is the instance operator's choice whether or not to require e-mail, but most instances currently do as a measure to mitigate bot signups.
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Yes, this used to be a feature of Reddit, not sure if it still is.
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Yes I have many reddit accounts without an associated email.
You can leave the field empty during signup.
Yes, it still is last I checked you just have to dodge a (mild) dark pattern they added suggesting otherwise.
What are the differences? Who runs these instances? Is there any moderation, or is it just the messy wild west?
An instance is a server. Server administrators set the policy for creating new user accounts and new communities. This is the equivalent of a Reddit admin.
Since it's part of the Fediverse, a user on one instance/server can subscribe to a community on any federated instance, and make posts/comments/etc. You don't need a separate account on every instance.
Communities are typically moderated by the user(s) who created them, much like moderators of a specific subreddit.
Can someone explain why all of these federated services are so left-wing? Don't these people have enough of the normie internet catering to them already?
Left leaning people are more open to new experiences and thus are often early technology adopters just like they are often early social practice early adopters.
Citation: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00926...
In Lemmy's case, it may be because the creators were banned from the left wing Reddit communities for genocide denial and promoting neonazi literature. It's a textbook case of horseshoe theory, and I won't go near that service with a 10 foot stick. By all accounts they seem to be awful people.