There will always be people who just want to show up in a space and act like an asshole, then cry "censorship" when they are asked to leave.
I kind of want moderators on Reddit to stop moderating just to show how quickly it would kill the platform. Popular subreddits would be overrun with bots and hate speech within a week. Then the real user exodus would begin, meanwhile Reddit has to try and convince their remaining advertisers that bots and racists are worth advertising to.
We already have Twitter doing that, though. Do we have to have ALL established social media hellholes going full toxic simultaneously? I'd rather we didn't.
And yes, that was the first thing I thought of. I saw a user similarly griping about mods, saying "all the mods are rigging all the polls" and then added, "sure, pretend the users are behind you, the mods, the ones who ban them for very little reason or mute them/ignore them for asking valid questions in mod mail."
A picture emerges… bit of a self-report! I'm curious what was 'very little reason' and then how many 'valid questions' were 'asked'. Some people seem to know who their natural enemies are, and they're really clear on wanting those impediments to be removed.
> I kind of want moderators on Reddit to stop moderating just to show how quickly it would kill the platform.
> Popular subreddits would be overrun with bots and hate speech within a week.
I really just wish there was an unfiltered view with an explanation of why posts were deleted. The lack of transparency is completely unnecessary. It'd be trivial to see if the rumors about mods taking money to curate messages in subs have any substance to them.
If they really are considering allowing users to vote out mods, I'd really like to see better documentation of their activities.
>There will always be people who just want to show up in a space and act like an asshole, then cry "censorship" when they are asked to leave.
Who is an asshole is an opinion. And no one likes being censored. One man's hate speech is another man's basic truism. It's why there is no federal law in America against "hate speech" because there's no objective way to classify it. Your disdain for people who disagree with you says nothing about them and a great deal about you.
Reddit is kind of a special case because the same moderators stayed there forever and have evolved to extreme uniculture. Also they are (obviously) coordinated now and reddit has never given users any recourse. It's not like the moderation in other places.
I used to sub to r/politics and r/news before the 2016 election. Both subs changed dramatically during that time. I left both of them, not because I'm against the new makeup of the content, but because the content that is there is now narrowed into a laser focus. If the mods aren't responsible for that, I don't know what is.
> And they should reign in the moderators, their abuses have angered way too many users.
Moderators are always going to be hated by some segment unfortunately.
There will always be people who just want to show up in a space and act like an asshole, then cry "censorship" when they are asked to leave.
I kind of want moderators on Reddit to stop moderating just to show how quickly it would kill the platform. Popular subreddits would be overrun with bots and hate speech within a week. Then the real user exodus would begin, meanwhile Reddit has to try and convince their remaining advertisers that bots and racists are worth advertising to.
We already have Twitter doing that, though. Do we have to have ALL established social media hellholes going full toxic simultaneously? I'd rather we didn't.
And yes, that was the first thing I thought of. I saw a user similarly griping about mods, saying "all the mods are rigging all the polls" and then added, "sure, pretend the users are behind you, the mods, the ones who ban them for very little reason or mute them/ignore them for asking valid questions in mod mail."
A picture emerges… bit of a self-report! I'm curious what was 'very little reason' and then how many 'valid questions' were 'asked'. Some people seem to know who their natural enemies are, and they're really clear on wanting those impediments to be removed.
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> I kind of want moderators on Reddit to stop moderating just to show how quickly it would kill the platform.
> Popular subreddits would be overrun with bots and hate speech within a week.
I really just wish there was an unfiltered view with an explanation of why posts were deleted. The lack of transparency is completely unnecessary. It'd be trivial to see if the rumors about mods taking money to curate messages in subs have any substance to them.
If they really are considering allowing users to vote out mods, I'd really like to see better documentation of their activities.
>There will always be people who just want to show up in a space and act like an asshole, then cry "censorship" when they are asked to leave.
Who is an asshole is an opinion. And no one likes being censored. One man's hate speech is another man's basic truism. It's why there is no federal law in America against "hate speech" because there's no objective way to classify it. Your disdain for people who disagree with you says nothing about them and a great deal about you.
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Reddit is kind of a special case because the same moderators stayed there forever and have evolved to extreme uniculture. Also they are (obviously) coordinated now and reddit has never given users any recourse. It's not like the moderation in other places.
But without them Reddit would be worse.
I used to sub to r/politics and r/news before the 2016 election. Both subs changed dramatically during that time. I left both of them, not because I'm against the new makeup of the content, but because the content that is there is now narrowed into a laser focus. If the mods aren't responsible for that, I don't know what is.