Comment by predictabl3
3 years ago
If only we could harness the people who still insist that rust is all hype and engage in impressive gymnastics to ignore all evidence to the contrary...
Some of the stuff people say about Rust reminds me of iOS users talking about Android. "Tell me you are operating from a place of near total ignorance, without telling me that you're talking out your butt".
See: the number of people, here, acting like you can't do raw pointers in Rust, or acting like it's militant woke youngins forcing poor big Google to adopt a safer, productive language.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair
Amount of dislike on HN for Rust is frankly unexpected, one part might be response to evangelization, but I've seen more hate on evangelization than actual evangelization. Sure, Rust ain't perfect but like C++ is even more imperfect. So that leaves me with job security in C++.
I don't see much dislike for Rust on HN. It's probably the most loved language around here.
Not sure where you looking but any Rust tangential topic gets its share of Nirvana fallacies, "bypassing borrow checker" and other such fallacies.
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> But the stream of very angry developers with a bone to pick about 'safety' is new.
/me looks around for the Boogeyman... Not seeing it. I'm not angry, but I guess I do have some emotions when I use critical software, written in C by devs who claim they can write perfect C, and I get segfaults.
> Many of its features and promises have been done in other languages
Also, no, despite often being repeated by those insisting Rust is pure hype, this is not meaningfully true (of course the sentence structure allows for any language having a less impactful subset to qualify). I suspect you'd list them otherwise. I'll give you Ada, but again, not sure that's really salient to the point I'm making.
Ada, and Cyclone, and Misra C, and various other C formalization tools. It also borrows a lot of the ML stuff from... ML.
Engineers who had safety as their prime goal can and often did use Ada and other tools to achieve that goal. The average Rust developer does not seem to be concerned with safety as a goal for the product specification, but rather as some kind of thematic justification divorced from the actual engineering.
edit: the bogeyman you mention are the developers who flamed Actix, and who make posts saying that unsafe blocks rely on a social contract.
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