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Comment by Fordec

3 years ago

Can't trust you either. Are you a bot? Well it's good to assume you are by default, since it's the majority of internet traffic anyway. And for your privacy, you're not exactly forthcoming with data to now prove otherwise.

So sorry, until you pay with a unique individual bank account to prove identity, you can't post on future social media sites. You are a bot after all.

Even if I was a bot, what of it? Your site should serve bots just as well as it serves humans. Only people who care about that are those who want to monetize our eyeballs by selling our attention to the highest bidder.

If it's costing you money, have your HTTP server return 402 Payment Required instead of the free page. That's how it should be.

  • There are vast reasons to prevent brigading, false information, information manipulation and any other number of malicious inputs that otherwise in a forum for people require trust to maintain community quality. Even for free reasons, especially say nice interest groups like one I used to be on for small satellites that got destroyed by uncontrolled bot spam.

    I do not agree that every piece of the internet "should be" behind a paywall because bad actors exist. That world is the literal death of the "open" internet, putting everything behind a paywall.

    • > prevent brigading

      Not something that should be prevented.

      > false information, information manipulation

      Not something any one person should be the arbiter of.

      > and any other number of malicious inputs that otherwise in a forum for people require trust to maintain community quality

      Trust is how you solve this. Forums shouldn't be letting randoms sign up and post. Just like we developers don't let randoms commit to our git repositories.

      But they want that mass market appeal, don't they? They want everyone to have input access, to be able to comment and participate. Usually because they're pushing ads and the more eyeballs the better. They're hopelessly dependent on "engagement".

      > That world is the literal death of the "open" internet.

      Not really. It might mean the death of the "free" internet but not the "open" one. The open internet is the one where we get to use whatever software we want to interoperate without restriction. It's the one where we get to use a Python script to scrape your site if we wish to do so. It's the one where we get to download videos with yt-dlp.

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