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Comment by harry8

1 year ago

> "if it's worth doing then it's worth doing properly"

Big life lesson for me was "if it's worth doing then it's worth doing poorly" Even if it's more worthwhile doing it a little better (and once done poorly you can work toward that if it makes sense).

I always liked this quote on officers which has been attributed to dozens of different generals throughout history:

> I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental clarity and strength of nerve necessary for difficult decisions. One must beware of anyone who is both stupid and hardworking; he must not be entrusted with any responsibility because he will always only cause damage.

I try to be clever and lazy in all things :-)

  • This never made sense to me. Being intelligent and hard working is (to me) obviously better than being intelligent and lazy. The latter just thinks great thoughts, but does nothing about them.

    • The idea is that the intelligent lazy person will find a simpler and better way to do things, while the hard working one just powers through doing it the usual way.

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    • Here is my insight, as it applies to managers in companies:

      There is a certain type of manager who is "hardworking", which in this case probably means something more along the lines of overzealous. The overzealous manager enters the organization and starts puting processes into place that assume a bunch of "hardworking" subordinates rather than average subordinates, which most of them are (by definition). When the subordinates don't meet expectations and the process fails, the manager blames subordinates for not working hard enough, so he drives them harder, which then causes issues with morale, retention, etc. damaging the organization.

      So, the "hardowrking"/overzealous manager believes problems can be solved by working harder, rather than trying to craft a process that realistically works for the average employee. The "lazy" but intelligent manager finds a way to get just enough done to satisfy business goals. The hardworking manager gets a lot done in the short term, but burns out the team in the long term. The lazy manager keeps their division humming at an unexceptional but reliable pace and keeps the business printing money.

      A giant bureaucracy like the military is more concerned about reliable, predictable, fool-proof plans and execution than brilliant and gallant leadership that could backfire in the wrong circumstances. So the quote is kind of about the priorities of a large organization.

    • I always thought being intelligent and lazy was superior. Why waste my time doing something if I don’t have to? You can ‘clever’ your way out of a lot of hard work and get the same results.

    • It's important that he's talking about military officers, not random people chilling at home. There's a minimum level of results necessary if you want to avoid eventual assignment to latrine cleaning duty, and laziness drives efficiency in achieving those results.

    • By lazy, he meant simple. Imagine you are in charge of conscript soldiers who have been given the bare minimum of training. Your plans and orders should consist of step1, step2, and step3 and no more.

  • A legendary academic from my country had a favorite saying to younger researchers: "Your activity doesn't give any results; all I see is consequences."

> "if it's worth doing then it's worth doing poorly"

Not sure if you're talking about the GK Chesterton quote, but https://qz.com/990130/in-defense-of-amateurs

  • Seems more extensively applied. e.g. If cleaning the bathroom is worthwhile then it is worth doing it badly. As opposed not at all. I'm sure someone loves cleaning bathrooms but that isn't the point.

    Counterpoint to the the inner voice saying: It's not worth doing because it won't be great.

    Woody Allen: "Showing up is 80 percent of life."