Comment by gregmac
2 years ago
> This manufacturer claims the cable transmits data at up to 10 Gbps – a speed that corresponds to USB 3.1 Gen 2 – but it only has enough pins and wires to support USB 2.0 at up to 480 Mbps. In any case, this cable accumulated 29 one-star reviews on Amazon and was discontinued the day after we bought it.
Pretty much sums up the experience of buying cables in the past couple years.
I really want my computer to have a built in cable tester. Just plug both ends of the same cable into two different ports of a computer, and it has a little popup saying "This cable can support charging at this rate and data at that rate, and is fully functional". Or "This cable has 1 bad pin, and that may affect video/audio/charging/whatever functionality"
Ideally, the computer would test every pin in the cable, and also test the resistance/voltage drop of the cable to detect thinner-than-spec conductors.
I'm pretty sure USB-C hardware in a typical laptop can already do most of this, if only the firmware added support for such testing.
It's really strange that even getting a separate testing device is really hard. There are some that test pins and some that can read the emarker, but none affordable that can do both.
I'm assuming it would involves more ICs which it can bump the cost of the testing kit exponentially to test all of the pins.
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There isn't a big enough market for it, so any device capable of doing this would be expensive due to lack of economies of scale.
My old motherboard had 2 NICs, and was able to test Ethernet cables this way.
> I really want my computer to have a built in cable tester. Just plug both ends of the same cable into two different ports of a computer … If you have a Mac you might be able to try the Blackmagic Disk Speed Test app. It would require you to also have a drive that* can handle the read/write speeds of the cable you are testing… but you’ll only get accurate numbers if your drive can handle read/write that’s above what the cable can handle. Hopefully someone else knows of a better way.
If the computer could test on a loop like the parent comment suggested, every single machine built in the last decade has enough memory bandwidth to test >40Gbps. No need to write to disk.
Something like this? https://hackaday.com/2023/08/11/usb-c-cable-tester-is-compac... https://www.tindie.com/products/petl/usb-c-cable-tester-c2c-...
No, these only test connectivity. They do not check the eMarker.
Mikrotik routers have something like this for Ethernet cables. They can detect how far down a cable break is and on what twisted pair. (They don't test cable bandwidth though.)
> accumulated 29 one-star reviews on Amazon and was discontinued the day after we bought it.
They forgot to say how it re-appeared the next day under some other manufacturer name that's a random assortment of words and letters slightly different than "NiceTQ"
It is annoying that these sellers do this, but it is a pretty obvious thing to do, it is economically incentivized, and so it is totally unsurprising.
The weird thing, IMO, is that Amazon doesn’t see this as a big problem that they need to solve.
I mean if I was to give somebody advice as to which cables they should buy on Amazon, it would have to be: use a brand you know and make sure you buy it directly from their account, and if there’s no such brand, don’t buy a cable from Amazon… but then I guess nobody asks.
> The weird thing, IMO, is that Amazon doesn’t see this as a big problem that they need to solve.
Not so weird I think. They pretty much have a monopoly so what do they care. The more Amazon is used as the sales-channel the more money Amazon makes. And most users don't have a way of testing their cables. If a cable stops working it is easy to assume the user somehow broke the cable or its connectors themselves.
> make sure you buy it directly from their account
Commingling makes this advice useless.
It's amazing what people fail to notice when it pays their bills.
I swear, there must be software to make pseudo English phoneme strings for Chinese resellers to register as “companies” on amazon. 95% of them are ridiculous and I can’t believe a human made them.
It's a fast and cheap way to avoid running afoul of trademark laws.
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It seems like a niche for someone to step in and provide a service for QC.
Benson Leung was doing this for a while. It does seem like something Consumer Reports might take on, but they'd have to sub to Benson or someone like him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benson_Leung
Outside the consumer space, I suspect any serious business relying on USB is going to have an EE or 10 who are happy to inform the buying decisions.