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Comment by einr

2 years ago

1. Embrace (Sure, Outlook supports SMTP and IMAP! Kinda.)

2. Extend (New Outlook supports IMAP, but only in the sense that we copy all your stuff to our Cloud) <--- We are here

3. Extinguish (We are deprecating support for legacy e-mail protocols, but it's okay because all your old stuff is in M365 anyway)

The dream of decentralized e-mail based on open standards is dead.

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bogantech  2 years ago

Definitely scummy behaviour but it's funny how someone always has to bring up EEE and try their hardest to contort whatever the subject is to fit within that definition.

Back in my day we just wrote Microsoft with a dollar sign for an S

  • einr  2 years ago

    Do you really think this is a particularly try-hard contortion?

    • bogantech  2 years ago

      A mail client supporting IMAP from the beginning, and then waiting almost 30 years to move on to step 2 of their evil plan? yeah I'd say so

    • deaddodo  2 years ago

      Microsoft has supported IMAP for decades. And, even today, they're nowhere near the top of the heap in email control.

      So what exactly is the goal of their master plan? They stop using IMAP for their Hotmail and Outlook.com accounts? Big whoop. The mass of people on Gmail and icloud.com/me.com services will just download one of a dozen other apps. And then just slowly stop using the outlook required accounts; unless mandated by their companies/corporate offices, wherein they just run two clients.

      EEE was a policy Microsoft had when it gained monopolistic position in a field. It's misguided and inaccurate to try to apply it here.

HPsquared  2 years ago

Funny how all the antitrust stuff melted away in recent years. It's almost as if the parties involved see that their interests are aligned.

  • danaris  2 years ago

    The antitrust "stuff" disappeared very quickly, 23 years ago, when George W Bush was elected President and his administration wasted no time in stopping the imminent harsh ruling against Microsoft in its antitrust trial, giving them barely a slap on the wrist, compared to the much stronger penalties they were undoubtedly facing (it was not at all unrealistic at that point to be expecting them to be broken up in some way).

    Recently, Biden's administration has started changing the federal tune on antitrust, formally rejecting the intellectually and morally bankrupt Chicago School interpretation that has hobbled all antitrust efforts for decades. That's why we're starting to see some real antitrust cases again.