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Comment by simbolit

3 years ago

> how a country ... like the USA could come up with arguably the worst prison system in the world

I will leave you with this quote by John Erlichman:

"We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities, (...) We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

Source: https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/

Background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman

And, because everything is complicated, the family denies it all:

The 1994 alleged ‘quote’ we saw repeated in social media for the first time today does not square with what we know of our father. And collectively, that spans over 185 years of time with him,” the Ehrlichman family wrote. “We do not subscribe to the alleged racist point of view that this writer now implies 22 years following the so-called interview of John and 16 years following our father’s death, when dad can no longer respond. None of us have raised our kids that way, and that’s because we were not raised that way.”

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-...

One thing has become abundantly clear over the last few years: people in politics regularly do things that go against their most cherished beliefs when it is politically expedient. Those that hold out are notable for how rare they are, and it frequently ends their political career.

One of the several hundred thousand nazis, erm German refugees, the Eisenhower administration brought here in 1953. This was much larger than operation paperclip. The GOP reloaded with that cohort. Their descendants are still wrecking havoc upon our country. I'm sure some come and have done well for us but many are trouble. That huge S&L scandal back in the late 80s was by some of them.

  • Could you provide more info on this? I haven’t heard of this before. I don’t doubt it’s true, I’d just like to see more about it.

    Regarding Ehrlichman specifically, his Wikipedia page says he fought for the US during WWII, and his father died serving in the Canadian military in 1940 (when Canada was fighting, but the US was not).

    So it seems pretty low to call him a Nazi.

  • Ehrlichman was born in the US though, so I'm not sure where you take the Nazi part from?

    • USA loved the nazis up until they made a peace treaty with stalin and war with france and england…