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Comment by mormegil

3 years ago

I don't think MDMA is "legal or decriminalized" in the Czech Republic...? Sure, consumption of _anything_ is decriminalized here (you are allowed to possess only a tiny amount for your own consumption) but other than that, owning, offering, selling, importing, etc. MDMA is very much criminalized here!

"Very much criminalized" is a matter of perspective. Getting caught first-time in non-violent drug crimes in the Czech Republic means you'll end up with a minimal sentence on probation without actual jail time.

In the US, your life would be ruined forever.

But yeah, legal consumption without legal supply (with quality control!) does not fully solve the problem.

How does that work exactly? How does one end up with a tint amount for personal consumption if someone else couldn't legally allowed to have enough to sell?

Seems really strange that the government would have bothered decriminalizing consumption if the supply itself is illegal.

  • > How does that work exactly? How does one end up with a tint amount for personal consumption if someone else couldn't legally allowed to have enough to sell?

    Same way people acquire guns illegally in US states that prohibit gun ownership: involved parties choose to break the law.

    > Seems really strange that the government would have bothered decriminalizing consumption if the supply itself is illegal.

    These governments take the stance that drug dealers exploit the addictions/circumstances of their customers, exposing them to more harm. So they make selling (or possessing enough that an intent to sell seems probable) illegal.

    Because the users are at worst harming themselves (assuming they aren’t doing something like driving while intoxicated, or parenting under the influence, but there are laws that already handle these scenarios), these governments don’t see the point in further harming the users of these drugs by locking them away in prison. So drug use is legal, and possessing a small amount (so small that it would be unlikely you’re selling) is legal. Also, because the use of drugs is not illegal, this makes users more likely to seek help, whether from their community or resources provided by their government.

    • > Same way people acquire guns illegally in US states that prohibit gun ownership: involved parties choose to break the law.

      There are legal avenues to buy guns in the US though, that's the confusion for me. Why bother saying I can own it if the law also says no one can legally sell it to me?

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  • Why is that weird? You can have food, you can make food for yourself and your friend, but if you’re selling cooked food to strangers you need to have minimum standards of cleanliness etc.

    • There are legal avenues to buy food though. My confusion is just that its illegal to sell but legal to own, it seems that still makes it functionally illegal to own since you shouldn't be able to buy it anywhere

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