Comment by nytesky
3 years ago
So he was looking to build his own AI chips with a company he owned and supply them to OpenAI? And enlist SoftBank for funding? Isn’t this very similar to Adam Neumans tactics?
3 years ago
So he was looking to build his own AI chips with a company he owned and supply them to OpenAI? And enlist SoftBank for funding? Isn’t this very similar to Adam Neumans tactics?
I don’t think it’s fair to jump to that conclusion, since he apparently never raised the money, founded the company, or developed the chips. The worst we can say is that his attention was divided and his goals may not have been aligned with OpenAI’s. And of course, I say this assuming the anonymous source is correct, which may not be the case.
Attentions divided seems to be the thing these days.
Have you really made it as a SV CEO if you're not at least a 3-ring Tres Commas Club member?
Popular picks seem to be any 3 of ad scaffolds, money processing, rent/gig vigs, energy, digital ledgers, big statistics, profit|altruism mashups, and, of course, the final frontier.
Other peoples Ideas and other peoples money, pretty on topic.
Isnt that how most ai is built anyway? Taking what’s not theirs and selling it for profit?
Isn't that exactly how humans have been able to progress so far? By standing on the shoulders of others to reach higher and higher lofts?
If you don't want your knowledge to be used by machines or man, then you should bottle them up and hide them from both.
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Something something greater good
Ideas and money are cheap and plentiful. Execution is everything and from what little I know about Altman that seems to be his strength.
The ideas that led to OpenAI’s technologies were not plentiful. They were the product of a handful of brilliant researchers, who correctly structured OpenAI to prevent them from being co-opted by people who are incapable of ever having them.
Got a citation for him DOING anything other than talking?
> Execution is everything and from what little I know about Altman that seems to be his strength.
when has he "executed"?
he seems to have had four jobs:
1. a failed startup founder 1. a YC person handing out other people's money 1. openai ceo 1. a horrific cryptocurrency grift
which do you feel he "executed" so impressively on?
What ventures has he executed successfully?
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This seems way, way more reasonable than WeWork.
Maybe if Altman bought every datacenter and then nudged OpenAI toward renting them out, or if Altman bought the "Open" trademark and licensed it to OpenAI for a million dollars or whatever.
> This seems way, way more reasonable than WeWork.
Really? Altman advertised and marketed himself as someone with no vested financial interest in OpenAI, but then he's going around creating companies with foreign states and companies that will then sell to the non-profit he's CEO of?
To be clear, I don’t think that would be totally above board; it wouldn't seem ethical to my moral compass at least.
I just think it’s far short of the completely indefensible, totally unambiguous, and obviously fraudulent behavior of Neumann.
There are gradations of conflict and malfeasance.
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No one is saying that. If the chip making subsidiary was owned by OpenAI it could have very well allowed economies of scale and enable reducing dependency on Microsoft. Perfectly aligned with OpenAI goals.
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> Adam Neumans tactics?
Neuman's still at it with Flow? In line with that, more impetus (not that he needs any) for Sam to go ahead and do it anyway.