Comment by augustulus
3 years ago
some people learn to justify their opinions. some people learn to bluster and accuse and talk about how many articles they’ve written
are you denying that you claimed this form of capitalism doesn’t prioritise profit above all else?
are you denying that you made the accusation that some people who disagree with that are lying? you’re aware of what the word deceitful means, I’m sure
are you denying you claimed those people are lying to serve some agenda?
if you want to check your answers, those are all things you said in your comment
> if you want to check your answers, those are all things you said in your comment.
This is utter nonsense, as is obvious to anyone who can read. It is telling that you have not explained how you arrived at these ridiculous conclusions.
my friend, anyone can come to these conclusions by reading your literal words:
>capitalism is not the simple proposition that profit justifies anything, even if some people sometimes suggest that it is
>in order to advance their agenda
>in a rather deceitful manner
so by very clear implication:
>capitalism doesn’t prioritise profit over everything else
>people say otherwise because they have an agenda
>those same people push their agenda with lies (deceit)
just a stab in the dark, but is all this very dramatic bluster and outrage simply because you levelled your accusation at people GP agrees with rather than at GP directly? did you expect a level of plausible deniability because of that? is that why you’re so angry?
if you’re so unable to say what that deceit or agenda is, why did you say it at all? were you trying to sound “in the know” or smart?
So now you have finally come to realize that you need to explain how you arrived at your allegation, and let's recall what that was:
> What I’m reading here is “you’re wrong and lying or lied to because of an ‘agenda’” and that’s it.
Where "you're" means GP, i.e. Bermion, the person to whom I was replying. So where did you get the notion that I was saying these things about Bermion? From your latest post, it appears that you think that in the statement "capitalism is not the simple proposition that profit justifies anything, even if some people sometimes suggest that it is...", the "some people" must refer to Bermion, but that does not follow, and Bermion is not even a particularly good fit, having not said anything so simplistic.
In fact, it is referring to a group of people tacitly referred to in Bermion's comment - those who go along with the view that "in a way, this is the 'right' thing to do in a capitalist society", a group in which Bermion clearly does not belong. It is not uncommon to find people implying, and even saying outright, that capitalism is just the proposition that profit justifies anything (sometimes, for example, in the guise of the claim that a board's only duty is to maximize profits by whatever works), and when it is being claimed by someone who knows better, in the hope of influencing other people in a way that benefits the claimant in some way, then that is duplicitous (which is not a synonym for lying, even though it may involve it.)
Next time you are thinking of making a wild allegation, do yourself a favor and check beforehand whether you have grabbed the wrong end of the stick.
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