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Comment by turquoisevar

2 years ago

There’s a reason why Goldbloom charted “change in likelihood” instead of simply showing sentiments in the chart. The reason is that if you look at the raw data he made available[0], the differences in sentiment between platforms are statistically insignificant.

To say nothing of conflating anti-Israel sentiments with antisemitism.

> US views skew pro-israel, and GenZ is closer to 50/50

The latest Gallup[1] says it’s about 50/50 in the US across demographics and almost 70% disapproval of Israel in the 18-34 age range (so a little bit of Gen Z and a little bit of Millennials). No polls specifically and exclusively break down responses to the exact Gen Z age range, but I doubt that would bring it closer to 50/50.

Now, there’s, of course, the chicken and egg debate. Still, explicitly on TikTok, I’ve seen Goldbloom-esque studies that document that the algorithm is led by the user’s preferences instead of the other way around. I’ll see if I can find the URLs in my history.

0: https://github.com/antgoldbloom/tiktok_israel_hamas/blob/mai...

1: https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-mi...

The poll asked if they backed their current military action. That’s not the same as being pro- or anti-Israeli.

In fact, less Israelis support the war than any of the American groups you mentioned. Only 29% support the war, with 49% against.

(Note: the poll you cite doesn’t allow for unsure, making the numbers incomparable. I worded the above to count unsure as “not supportive of”. If you count them as “supporting”, then Americans are still about as supportive as Israelis.).

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-poll-finds...

  • > That’s not the same as being pro- or anti-Israeli.

    That’s the relevant question: are you pro- or anti-Israel in their actions against Palestine? I doubt that a poll exists that just asks, “Are you pro- or anti-Israel?”.

    Perhaps some polls ask about the military action and polls that ask about the settlements in the West Bank or maybe polls that ask about the general treatment of Palestinians, but to say that a poll about the military action doesn’t measure any form of pro- or anti-Israel sentiments is a bit odd.

    > In fact, less Israelis support the war than any of the American groups you mentioned. Only 29% support the war, with 49% against.

    I take it the Reuters article you linked to is your source for this. Still, that article talks explicitly about polling the opinion on a ground invasion, which is even more specific than “military action.”