Comment by rendall
2 years ago
As I said it before, you should know by now that the "free" in Free Palestine does not, and has never, meant "freedom". That is a Western expectation imposed on the phrase. Determining what it actually means, I will leave as an exercise for the reader. As research materials, I refer you to the writings, life and times of Mohammed Amin al-Husseini who was the architect and sire of the Free Palestine movement. Note particularly the memorandum of understanding he signed on behalf of Palestians with the Nazis. I also refer you to the Hamas charter (both versions 1.0 and 2.0) (Hamas enjoys an 85% approval rating, by the way).
We know "free" does not mean "freedom" in the Western understanding of that phrase, because sovereignty has been proffered many times in 75 years. It is not what Palestinians want. You need to listen to Palestinians, not Westerners westsplaining. And then, when you are really clear on what they mean by "free", you must bravely make your own moral evaluation of whether the "free" they actually mean is something you can support. Only then, and I mean this honestly, will you be able to really understand the dynamic going on over there. Only when you understand what Palestinians, by their own words, want, will you be an effective advocate for peace and prosperity in the region.
Amin Al-Husseini is not the only authority on the subject - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Najati_Sidqi
We can listen to the Palestinians themselves:
"Would you be willing to share land equally with Jews in peace?"
https://youtu.be/Ry6kpYFHnxs
"Would you compromise with Israel for peace?"
https://youtu.be/CzM_QbnxOxs
"Do you want to expel the Jews?"
https://youtu.be/5VqmUgami_Y
"Why do you reject all peace offers?"
https://youtu.be/vb-nfYXm_tg
"Should Iran nuclear bomb Tel Aviv?"
https://youtu.be/RNyfUzWpeF8
"Is killing innocent Israelis heroic?"
https://youtu.be/L4qPsLfO-AQ
"What is your solution to the conflict?"
https://youtu.be/x7hQ4cMlrNU
"How do you explain Jewish archeology sites?"
https://youtu.be/mkLs-yOi9gQ
Etc
After watching that it's instructive to listen to Israelis answer the question "Why can't you admit there is an occupation?"
https://youtu.be/u_60-SwtF9M
Then "Did Israel steal Palestinian land?"
https://youtu.be/btVFgqkgkzw
Yes, I've seen many of Corey's videos.
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ah, so they don't need to 'just stop killing Jews'. They need to convince you personally that they meet your personal definition of decent people who deserve not to be locked up. That seem a lot harder than your initial simplistic blather, but at least it also sounds more honest on your part.
I'm trying to engage with you honestly, here. Would you like to meet me half way? If my "blather" is "simplistic", then tell me where I'm wrong.