Comment by Aardwolf
2 years ago
At least the programs in the screenshot have actually useful and visible scrollbars. Seriously, scrollbars are super useful and should never be hidden, they both provide information you want to see and actions you want to do, why is everything trying to make them as subtle as possible today, even most Linux UI's which I'd expect are normally made more for usefulness than "design trends"?
GitHub's Android app doesn't even show scroll bars. And no scroll grab or snapback in apps even when there is a scroll bar. Am I the only person who scrolls back to check something and wants to quickly return to where I was in a document? Even if just FF on Android had this I would be happy.
On desktop we can drag scrollbars but I can't imagine what it's like to use modern 4-8px action area scroll bars if you have fine motor control challenges.
I just don't understand how we got to this point. Do people not use the apps they write?
This must be a bug though. If you unfold hidden comments, you jumpt to the BOTTOM, where you just WERE, rather than the top. So you scroll up, with no scrollbar, frantically, because you don't know how far you have to go. Until you reach the top - and you drag down ONE MORE TIME, because you're scrolling frantically, so the whole thread reloads, and everything is folded again, and you're back where you started.
On Linux this depends on your theme really, all the themes i use have scrollbars - e.g. here is an example with Gtk3 (which IIRC introduced the "autohiding scrollbars" to Linux desktop)[0]. It is "cdetheme-solaris" which i think is from [1]. I might have modified it a bit though. Though normally i use Gtk2 apps with a modified "cleanlooks" theme (a screenshot from Lazarus[2] i made a couple of days ago shows it - including the scrollbars :-P).
[0] https://i.imgur.com/CAyu5Ay.png
[1] https://github.com/josvanr/cde-motif-theme
[2] https://i.imgur.com/Yw1tTcD.png
Moreover, make the scrollbars big enough for my thumbs on my touch screen. Or at least make it optional.