Comment by vkou
2 years ago
It's worth noting that Korea and Taiwan are right behind China in illegal fishing (#3 and #6, respectively).
For reasons, it doesn't win you any friends when you complain about them, though.
2 years ago
It's worth noting that Korea and Taiwan are right behind China in illegal fishing (#3 and #6, respectively).
For reasons, it doesn't win you any friends when you complain about them, though.
>It's worth noting that Korea and Taiwan are right behind China in illegal fishing (#3 and #6, respectively).
You should really include a citation when you claim countries are "on a list". For all I know they are #3 and #6 on "vkou's list of least favorite countries".
Korea doesn't appear on the NOAA's list at all for 2023. Taiwan's impact is a tiny fraction of China's. While that's still not OK, we're comparing apples and atomic bombs.
>Angola, Grenada, Mexico, the People’s Republic of China (PRC), Taiwan, The Gambia, and Vanuatu were identified for reported or alleged IUU fishing that occurred between 2020 and 2022. PRC and Taiwan’s identifications include information related to seafood-related goods produced through forced labor.
https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/s3/2023-08/2023.ReportSummary...
https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/s3/2023-08/2023RTC-ImprovingI...
They are #3 and #6 on the IUU list.
https://globalinitiative.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IUU-...
#1 China - 3.86 #2 Russia - 3.04 #3 South Korea - 2.91 #4 Somalia - 2.90 #5 Yemen - 2.89 #6 Taiwan - 2.88
Neck and neck with two states undergoing decades of civil war, and one that's a bit of an international pariah at the moment. A truly glowing endorsement.
> Taiwan's impact is a tiny fraction of China's.
Do you have any citation for this? The reports you cited do not give any numbers, and only put blame on both countries for use of forced labour, and for catching sharks (on the basis that both violate a US shark fishing ban, that was only passed by Congress in 2021[1]).
Taiwan also received a positive citation for closing some loopholes in its laws (With no evaluation for whether it enforces them.)
[1] Which is a good thing, but it is not an international shark fin ban. It's not entirely clear to me why either Taiwan or China have to follow domestic American law...
The IUU report[0] gives such a ranking in Table 4. Ten worst-performing countries.
for IUU fishing scores by type, for all types of state responsibilty:
China, Russia, South Korea, Somalia, Yemen, Taiwan, Ukraine, Eritrea, Egypt, Libya.
[0] https://globalinitiative.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IUU-...
You should probably reference the up-to-date version which has Taiwan at #7 and Korea at #9.
https://globalinitiative.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/The-...