Comment by dang
1 year ago
You can't post like this here. I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
That was fast! Are you notified on keywords or just happened by? It seems like an LLM assistant could make this task much easier.
I just happened by.
It's a bit of an illusion because one is more likely to notice fast responses than slow ones. Is that recency bias? I guess not.
If I were to guess, any article about Israel or Palestine is likely going to have a decent amount of posts to remove and flag.
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I think that's an overstatement, though of course I understand how such a feeling could arise in the current moment.
This is dang disgusting as it proves that backchannels really are at work here. There are comments denying Palestinians the right to live but they never get dang attention. HN moderation is declining fast.
I understand the fear, but that's not the case. There have been plenty of times when I've scolded and/or banned accounts for posting slurs in the opposite direction. Btw this has been true—in both directions—for many years, and will continue to be true.
It may surprise some people, but this isn't one of the harder parts of moderating. There are borderline cases, but fewer than you might suppose, and asking people to make their substantive points without slurs (and/or banning the egregious cases) is usually fairly clear-cut and fairly accepted by the community, regardless of who the slur is directed against.
In this case, for example, I can't imagine that fair-minded advocates for Palestinians would have any problem with us moderating an obviously trollish comment referring to "jew tunnels". On the contrary, they'd surely be happy to have that cleared off HN so there is no chance of being associated with it.
p.s. there were no backchannels here. I ran across the comment randomly and it was a straightforward moderation call. I gave the user a path to get unbanned, if they want to, because they weren't a brand new account.
> There are comments denying Palestinians the right to live but they never get dang attention
If such comments exist, I certainly want to see them. Keep in mind that we don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted here. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...).
I know it feels like the mods are against you—everyone with strong feelings feels that way—but it's not true. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... We all seem to be hard-wired to jump to such conclusions, though, when strong feelings are active. For a long series of comments attempting to explain why, see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....
I really appreciate that you take the time to explain moderation decisions. I wish this were a bigger trend on other platforms. Thanks!
I appreciate the moderation work and the patience to explain your perspective in this matter although I continue to think that HN is biased in this and other cases - if more users flag any comment related to the Palestine perspective but not as many flag the comments calling Palestinians terrorists the moderation work becomes a backchannel for that cause by design.
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Thank you for your effort in keeping the discussion healthy.
However my impression is that this thread is lower in the HN rankings compared to what I usually see for something this new and with this score and discussion.
Am I wrong in perceiving this? Can you please help me understand?
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Tell us what they said or ban me too. You want to make an example, so give the actual example.
Thank you to the reply who told me that you can turn on "showdead" in your profile and then see the removed comment that warranted banning the account and gloating about it.
Go to your profile and turn on showdead, you'll see it