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Comment by ben_w

2 years ago

Sometimes.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7702913.stm

I brought up translation as a risk with a friend. If you pay someone for a translation these days, there is a chance they will just feed it to some AI to cut costs. You'll have no way to validate yourself if you don't speak the language.

  • Do you usually just pick a person at random when hiring or do you spend some effort looking into their qualifications and references?

    How's your hypothetical any different now than it would've been in the past 15 or so years of Google Translate's existence?

    • Google translate is nowhere near as good as GPT4 at translation. Especially when given additional context and style instructions.

    • Sure, but people get burned despite attempting to be careful all the time.

      Translation software predates Google translate, and I'm not claiming something has suddenly changed. It's slowly gotten better, and I assume the temptation to only pretend to have human translation will keep growing with it. The safer a scam seems, the more people will try it.

  • The shape of managing the work approaches the work in terms of fractal complexity

  • You do, actually: feed it to GPT-4 several times in different sessions. When it hallucinates, translations come out obviously different. When it actually knows what it's talking about, they'll match except for minor things like word order and synonyms.

  • Just a chance? I routinely translate hundred pages of pdfs to greek, in 3 minutes. The translation is far from perfect depending the text and it still needs a human in the loop for corrections, but i couldn't imagine translating a 300 pages pdf to greek by hand.

    There is also the translaxy bot on poe.com which i use to translate english or modern greek to ancient greek. Out of this world good translation.

    I mean, are humans still employed to translate text? Like an employee doing that job, and only that?

    • Hundreds of millions are spent on translators every year. It's a major expense in the EU budget, for example. A lot of people are going to jail for fraud if people aren't actually doing the work.

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