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Comment by shzhdbi09gv8ioi

2 years ago

Dude. Good & evil is such a central concept in Christianity it is practically ingrained in your society if you live in a christian country even if you are secular.

The English words for good and evil are pre-Christian in origin. So are their cognates in other European languages. Greek philosophers were debating “good and evil” centuries before Jesus of Nazareth was born. So there is nothing inherently Christian about those words, or the concepts they describe.

  • You are correct, but you are also ignoring the fact that we are no longer living in ancient greek time.

    I did not claim that Christianity invented good & evil. I claimed that it is a central concept in Christianity.

    Your way of reasoning here is often referred to as a straw mans argument.

    • > You are correct, but you are also ignoring the fact that we are no longer living in ancient greek time.

      Even today, people still read and are influenced by Plato and Aristotle.

      > I did not claim that Christianity invented good & evil. I claimed that it is a central concept in Christianity.

      You claimed you don’t believe in evil because you are not a Christian. Not being a Christian and not believing in evil have little connection with each other, given billions of non-Christians believe in evil.

      > Your way of reasoning here is often referred to as a straw mans argument.

      You argument was too unclear to strawman.

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Christianity also features the premise of marriage, so does that mean no secular conception of marriage can exist? Most people think otherwise.

Christianity doesn't own "good and evil", even though it features it, and nor are these premises even owned by religion generally.

Goodness and evilness predates Christianity by millenia. Read about Mesopotamian religions, or the Hindic ones.

  • It's not relevant since those religions are no longer practiced.

    Christianity is, and is still influencing our world, like I wrote above.

    • Hinduism it's pretty much alive, and Christianity it's just a fork of Judaism.

      When Cristianity didn't even exist, the Chinese already had a good chunk of philosophy perfectly set and written, and even modernish rules for war and diplomacy: Tao Te King, and The Art of War.

      Heck, America from Canada to the Patagonia didn't even know about Jesus until the Europeans arrived 1500 years later. 1500s damn years. For a huge continent mass spread over from almost the North Pole to the South pole.

      So much for an 'Universal' God. So universal that Aquinas had to rip a good chunk of Greek philosophy to adapt (more like smash it down with nails and duct tape) ancient Middle East fairy tales into the less-desert bound Europe as the modern Christian canonical sources.

      If any, the Western world is shaped by the Roman architecture and law, and the Greek worldview, mindset and math.

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