I think it's worthwhile for such discussion to happen in the open. If the tool can be defeated through simple means, it's better for everybody to know that, right?
It would be better for artists to know that. But Hacker News is not a forum of visual artists: it's a forum of hackers, salaried programmers, and venture capitalists. Telling the bad guys about vulnerabilities isn't responsible disclosure.
Causing car crashes isn't hard (https://xkcd.com/1958/). That doesn't mean Car Crash™ International®'s decision-makers know how to do it: they probably don't even know what considerations go into traffic engineering, or how anyone can just buy road paint from that shop over there.
It's everybody's responsibility to keep Car Crash™ International® from existing; but failing that, it's everybody's responsibility to not tell them how to cause car crashes.
> why are you seeking to provide an “antidote”
I think it's worthwhile for such discussion to happen in the open. If the tool can be defeated through simple means, it's better for everybody to know that, right?
It would be better for artists to know that. But Hacker News is not a forum of visual artists: it's a forum of hackers, salaried programmers, and venture capitalists. Telling the bad guys about vulnerabilities isn't responsible disclosure.
Causing car crashes isn't hard (https://xkcd.com/1958/). That doesn't mean Car Crash™ International®'s decision-makers know how to do it: they probably don't even know what considerations go into traffic engineering, or how anyone can just buy road paint from that shop over there.
It's everybody's responsibility to keep Car Crash™ International® from existing; but failing that, it's everybody's responsibility to not tell them how to cause car crashes.
The tears of artists and copyright evangelists is so sweet.
I apologize. I was trying to respond to inflammatory language ("poison") with similarly hyperbolic terms, and I should know better than to do that.
Let me rephrase: Would AI-powered upscaling/downscaling (not a simple deterministic mathematical scaling) not defeat this at a conceptual level?
>why are you seeking to provide an “antidote”
To train a model on the data.
Get permission to use the data.
Got all the permission I need when it was put on a publicly accessible server.
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Why would you train one?