Comment by noqc
1 year ago
How does history prove any such thing? That's neither how history or proof work. Most of the wars that have been resolved to everyone's benefit have done so by the unconditional surrender of the aggressors, followed by amicable reconstruction.
> How does history prove any such thing?
Because there are Jews living in Germany nowadays?
Are there Jews in Germany today because of diplomacy? Or because those who tried annihilating and enslaving most German Jews were removed from power by force?
After Germany surrendered unconditionally and was amicably reconstructed.
... after Germany was bombed to the ground and occupied for years. Only after that came the diplomatic efforts.
> after Germany was bombed to the ground and occupied for years
Well, looks like that box is checked for Gaza; can we jump to diplomacy now?
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It provides examples that it happened and thus proves it's possible.
I'm not convinced by the examples that you have listed (a conspicuously empty list at that), and examples are only evidence by analogy anyway. The reactivity of hydrogen is not proof of the reactivity of helium.
The list is empty if you haven't read what I originally posted and linked. Obviously you haven't. Politics is neither chemistry nor physics, it is what is referred to as the art of the impossible. Many nasty situations in the past seemed impossible to solve diplomatically, but it was made possible. No matter how bleak it might have looked. Again, refer to the link I posted that kicked off this discussion.
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Who is the aggressor here?
Hamas on Oct 7th
Many people would disagree if you look at the history starting from the Nakba.
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