Comment by ken47
1 year ago
I wish politics articles wouldn't make it to the top page of Hacker News. There's already enough political discussion in a million other places.
1 year ago
I wish politics articles wouldn't make it to the top page of Hacker News. There's already enough political discussion in a million other places.
Yes, and we won't let HN turn into a current affairs site, but this site has always had a certain amount of political content, and that's why this particular thread is happening. For more information, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39146184 and the links there.
Is there a reason why Oct 7th (the massacre that started this escalation) was not discussed?
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1696896000&dateRange=custom&...
I haven't gone back to check this, but I assume users flagged the posts and moderators didn't turn off the flags.
We only turn off flags when it seems like there's some basis and at least some chance for a reflective, substantive discussion. That isn't possible in the immediate aftermath of a shocking event like the atrocities of Oct 7—the reactions are necessarily going to be reflexive rather than reflective; completely understandably so—but the odds of any thoughtful conversation in that state of shock are basically zero.
Not that this thread or the related ones have been anything close to what I would wish for on HN, in terms of thoughtful conversation, but unfortunately we don't have the ability to make that happen, and not discussing the topic at all seems out of the question as well, so here we are with no good position and no solution.
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Yet you waded in to comment, when you could have clicked on any of the other 29 links?
A agree about this topic, but "technical"-politics (=tech related) should still belong here (eg. EU vs Apple, EU vs encryption, etc.). After all, who else than us nerds can understand the topic, and discuss it without the "only pedos need e2e encryption, if you are not a pedo, what are you hiding?".
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That's not accurate.
It's common for people with strong feelings on a topic to leap to the conclusion that the mods are biased against their side and secretly supporting the opposite. This happens from every perspective on every divisive topic.
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
You are right, it's unfair because there is no strong evidence to make that assertion.
I don't mind about what are your personal political affiliations or sympathies, however, I still maintain that this topic is textbook against the guidelines, and because of that I'm still afraid we will see post against candidate X in the front page in a few months. Time will tell.
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I complained a few months ago that HN was the other way about an article that was 'disappeared' from HN on the atrocities in Gaza at the hands of Israel, it had scholarly backing.
Your comment doesn't stand to any reason and discussion here on HN are highly moderated, in my opinion at times it's balanced towards Israel as the term 'anti-semitim' is thrown around to stop any discussion and valid criticism about the Gaza war.
You can't appease everyone and 'anti-Semitism' has been weaponised very successfully by people who know exactly what they're doing.
People don't have to hide being anti-Israel. It's fine. You can be anti-Uganda, anti-France. Be anti-whatever country you like.
Sure, but I don't think is right to use their moderation powers to bend the guideline of this forum to push those views.
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> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, [...]. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
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Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.
I'm sure that you have legitimate reasons to feel the way you do, but you're posting to this thread in a way that is against the intended spirit, as I tried to explain it in the pinned comment at the top. Please don't do that. If you can't post in the intended spirit, that's understandable, but in that case please don't post until you can.
(Exactly the same thing, of course, goes for the commenters you're in disagreement with - for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39151611)
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I suppose it depends if you follow it in "the news" or your first contact was the Hamas videos of October 7th
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