← Back to context

Comment by hexage1814

1 year ago

I wonder if Youtube will ever do the same with Invidious by requiring an account for people to view videos.

Sure, it might seen unthinkable for this to happen in 2024, but give it more 5 or 10 years and I could see this being something acceptable to the eyes of the average user. I don't like the direction the internet is going :\

Oh yeah, I see it as inevitable. I'm blown away that YouTube is still accessible without an account. It's only a matter of time, though, I'd wager. I never thought Twitter would require an account to view its content.

  • It's not the same site, but it's the same company: one thing that caught my attention lately is those little messages nagging you whenever you access Google without being logged in. And... those sorta passive aggressive behavior always start like this. Like, "Oh, why don't you log in? It's good for you, log in!", and as the time passes that behavior just gets more and more hostile towards the user until you end up reaching twitter/instagram levels.

    • You can try to guess the reason for such high temperature user boiling, it's not hard.

      There is a single TOS and privacy agreement for all Google services. If you “just” log in to Chrome to synchronize history because “it's convenient”, you also allow everything else, including AdSense and other all-across-the-web tracking. By formally becoming a client, you lose most of legal protections against indiscriminate data collection.

      1 reply →

    • Oh yeah, that's right! I've noticed those nag modals are filling over 1/3 of my screen! On all kinds of sites! So coercive and manipulative. I can see why some people just browse with JS disabled and just forget about sites that require it.

      2 replies →

  • Why would they want to lose out on the additional ad revenue of not-logged-in users? As long as they manage to generate ad impressions, I don't think they care all that much.

The point being: archive with yt-dlp while we still can.

  • Yes, assume every video you watch and like is going to get deleted in a week or month or year, or whatever. We don't know the timeline but it's really not a question of "if", just when.

    • Not just videos. If you find something useful or enjoyable and want to ensure future access you need your own copy.

    • The vast majority of content is essentially ephemeral. I don’t tend to go back and rewatch random videos from years ago.

> I don't like the direction the internet is going :\

Haven't read "The Internet Con" yet but apparently Cory Doctorow has some ideas what can be done about this direction.

> We can – we must – dismantle the tech platforms. We must to seize the means of computation by forcing Silicon Valley to do the thing it fears most: interoperate. Interoperability will tear down the walls between technologies, allowing users to leave platforms, remix their media, and reconfigure their devices without corporate permission. Interoperability is the only route to the rapid and enduring annihilation of the platforms. The Internet Con is the disassembly manual we need to take back our internet. [1]

[1] https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/01/bookmaker/

I don't think so, with other sites giving out free video content. If they all did...