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Comment by hinkley

1 year ago

Forest + fire = smoke

Mud + water = swamp

Swamp + plant = Venus Flytrap

Okay, okay.

Venus Flytrap + Smoke = smoke detector

<confused smile meme>

Tree + Water = river was also pretty baffling.

Unfortunate. I can see the appeal of using an LLM for this but the results are pretty mediocre.

  • The rewilding guys would probably say 'that tracks'. Many of their efforts to get rivers to flow year round usually involve trees. Moss, bugs, rodents and grasses first then trees. Usually can help many areas to have year round streams again. As roots help water linger longer in an area. Which leads to streams.

  • Obviously the prompt to the LLM is just to create the most obvious association. It may not mention "crafting" at all. Maybe it does though. Is there something obvious to craft that uses a tree and water in the process?

    • To design a game like this you need to do a lot better than just creating the obvious association. It needs a mix of obvious recipes and clever recipes, so that there's challenge and a sense of achievement. Also, there's a starting point. What should the graph look like?

      I'm sure Neal has done hard work in getting it right.

  • Meh, what would be your great response to Tree + Water?

    A human can only generate a small fraction of the combinations and would have a hard time coming up with most combinations which are already nonsensical.

    What is your non-disappointing idea for, idk, Tears + Pottery (AI: Bowl) or Money + Salt Lick (AI: Cow) or Skull + Lake (AI: Loch Ness) or Dracula + Pirate (AI: Vampirate) or Curse + Money (AI: Debt)? Now do that thousands of more times.

    The infinite aspect is the thing that keeps it interesting, I think. The fun is getting a new, weird result like "Dracula" and "Pot of Gold" and seeing if you can generate new weird results from the existing set.

I found fish + fire = sushi amusing - it isn't necessarily wrong, but it also doesn't feel right either...

  • How did you get to fish? Because boy do I have a story for you.

    Mine starts in Atlantis, then Poseidon gives me a fish. Then two fish turned into a shark and I ended up with a sharknado.

    Then I found the titanic, we hit an iceberg, I found a treasure and then pirates chased me, but I got away, sold the treasure for money and became the richest man, then climbed Mt Everest, and later had a tea party.

    Anyway, there has to be a better way to get fish than Unda da Sea.

I've also got a few where it just mashes adjectives together; so far I've found Time Poseidon, Rainbow Steam Robocloud and Broken Unicorn, among other similar ones.