Comment by rurp
2 years ago
So do countries, if we're looking at a long enough time scale. There is no end in sight for the war in Ukraine and when the end comes it's likely to be messy. It might be more of a pause than a true end, and one or both sides will likely be pretty unhappy with the outcome. It could be many years before Russia and the west go back to a comfortable economic relationship.
Well, could go many ways. Depends who is going to "succeed" to Putin (which isn't getting any younger) and especially how.
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No comment on your politics but saying "Prove me wrong" is basically just saying "Argue with me".
You can rarely prove a prediction or opinion wrong, especially if they're this vague. Only time can, sometimes.
> Prove me wrong.
Neoconservatives are not, and indeed have not held power in the US for the better part of a decade. Indeed not even back when Russia invaded Crimea if memory serves me correctly.
Of course, there's a decent probability that you've redefined "neoconservative" to mean "people whose politics I don't like" as opposed to any definition that's actually useful for an analysis of foreign policy, and concomitantly that you are so myopically focused on one specific component of foreign policy that you would refuse to admit any evidence that might actually prove you wrong.
You are correct, I do not side with warmongers, of which Clinton, Obama, Biden, Bush, Cheney et al are solidly in favor of. War.
You proved nothing.
Talking to people actually living in the place could give you a clue. Putin is a neocon, sure, but no bureaucrat started this war and Ukraine is very unlikely to just fold and submit if the US stop their support. Liberals have also nothing to do with Russian aggression.
>>no bureaucrat started this war
2 bureaucrats that have incessantly called for war quickly come to mind, Jake Sullivan and Victoria Nuland.
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This war will likely end with Ukraine losing some amount of land - it is just a matter of if they ever accept this or whether they want a Korea style frozen conflict.
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Maybe the problem is the shortness of sight rather than the lack of an end?
Rest assured, if the powers that be decide that "Russia is good now" they will convince you of the same within 6 months.
My grandparents carried some anti-German sentiments 70 years after the war ended. Maybe you are able to switch your opinions that quickly, most people can't.
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