Comment by djtriptych
1 year ago
is it even true that most software engineers are white and male? We're discarding indian and chinese engineers?
1 year ago
is it even true that most software engineers are white and male? We're discarding indian and chinese engineers?
My experience over about 30 years is that 90% of engineers I’ve seen, including applicants, are male and 60% are Asian. I’d estimate I’ve encountered about 5,000 engineers. I wasn’t tallying so this includes whatever bias I have as a North American tech worker.
But most engineers are not white as far as I’ve experienced.
You don't even have to guess, BLS exposes this data to the public, search for "software developer": https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.htm
That table gives “or” statistics. You can get the percent males (80%) and the percent whites (55%) but you can’t get the percentage of white males.
In fact given that 45% are not white, if only 6% of software developers are white women that would put white men in the minority.
Great point! In addition, race and ethnicity are different dimensions, so with 6% of developers as Hispanic/Latino, if you're interested in the white non-Hispanic population, that's probably around 52% given about half of Hispanics identify as white.
That is the US only though
Interesting, it says 36% of software developers are Asian but only 9% of web developers.
In which country? It's true in France, it's possibly not true in the US, it's definitely not true in China.
In a recent US job opening for entry level SWE, over 80% of applicants had CS/IT degrees from the Indian subcontinent. /anecdote
Those are "white-adjacent". They're the glitch in the woke matrix.
They're minorities, non-white, yet they perform. Outperform even. This suggests that merit works no matter your background which breaks identity politics.
Hence, successful minorities project "whiteness". This includes awful behavior like punctuality and rationalism.
Certainly not in my Silicon Valley teams.
I'd say maybe 40% white (half of which are immigrants) and 80% male.
More diverse than any leftist activist group I've seen.
Interesting tidbit, but was the political snark at the end really necessary?
Not much is necessary, but it felt on topic because it's arguing against leftist fantasies that SW engineers are all straight white males.
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how many leftist activist groups have you seen?