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Comment by bionhoward

1 year ago

Does anyone know if the major dealbreaker “Additional Terms” apply to Gemma? Because I don’t want to touch anything Google related with a 100 foot pole given the following:

> Use restrictions You may not use the Services to develop machine learning models or related technology.

https://policies.google.com/terms/generative-ai

Note that using Gemini chat model develops it so, taken extremely seriously, this is a blanket ban on sending text to Gemini

Law tends to go by plain English meaning, ex. here, you understand that the idea isn't to ban people from interacting with Gemini, but rather, to stop them from using it to develop new models (i.e. using it's outputs as inputs for training another model)

  • Hmm, I took it to mean you couldn’t even ask about ML and you must avert your eyes when SGE pops up on ML queries on Google.

    Anyway Google lost me as a customer for that so I promise not to help them “develop their models!”

https://ai.google.dev/gemma/terms https://ai.google.dev/gemma/prohibited_use_policy

Looks like there's no such restrictions? And this term does not reference the additional terms.

  • The issue I find problematic is "Google may update Gemma from time to time, and you must make reasonable efforts to use the latest version of Gemma." - it's a bit vague - I guess it's not enforceable!

    • It's probably CYA for any liabilities stemming from issues discovered/not fixed downstream after Google has addressed them. It's hard for Google to enforce offensively, but great for defense!

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