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Comment by selykg

1 year ago

GM is trying really hard to not get my business in the future. Between the no Car Play and Android Auto support in their new EVs. Now this. I'm just tired man...

GM seems to be floundering in mediocrity right now. They basically pump out generic, uninspired plastic boxes right now then try to nickel and dime their customers. In my opinion, foreign manufactures are absolutely eating their lunch right now.

Despite being children of an automotive family, with a deep loyalty for the Big 3, we've started to avoid their cars. While they can run forever, they just start failing apart.

  • Chevy Trax got C&D's highest 10/10 which is remarkable because GM's small cars are usually terrible...

    and consumer reports seems to love the cousin Buick Envista.

  • The rebadged Commodores were a bright spot in the lineup for a while if you like that kind of thing

    What are “foreign manufacturers?” Hondas and Toyotas have been built in the states for a long time. Chrysler has been a transnational merger for a while and Ford and GM have long histories of importing their overseas products.

    • Generally anything outside of the big 3 is considered foreign. It’s no longer fully accurate, but that’s how I’ve typically viewed it

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They've done that just fine for me by releasing... lame cars across the board. Most of their brands are shells of their former selves (especialllly Cadillac) and I can't remember the last time I saw a Chevy that I actually liked.

  • I mean, I get that. Part of it is irrational because my father worked for and retired from GM. So it's a bit of a family thing. But the loyalty has a limit and I believe Mary Barra has reached the limit for me.

We’ve already taken quite a few manufacturers off the list for this reason, including GM. Vote with dollars people. Take my data without permission, lose my business.

  • Voting with your vote works even better.

    If we vote with our dollars then the government just bails them out when they inevitably go bankrupt, again.

    • My counterargument to this ideology is that US States are currently on a banning spree to prevent ranked-choice voting, which allows more candidates to participate in elections, but without anybody "wasting their vote on 3rd parties."

      First past the post voting, which is how US dual-party system prefers to elect, is a sham/joke/embarassment.

  • who is left on your list?

    • I am eyeing up Hyundai Ioniq 5/6. Any comments. Irony is keeping the dumb old Toyota is cheaper even with the crazy tax breaks in Australia! I could hand over $10k to carbon offset company instead and still be ahead with the ol banger. And have the convenience of what they call service stations :-)

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why would you want GM in first place?

You've Japanese, German and to some extend even Korean cars that are much better. If pick up truck is what you're looking for, then Ford is much better

  • The brands you are thinking of also likely have telematics with similar vague language about data collection. I've seen it in Nissans, Hondas, and Toyotas, personally.

  • If you're in the market for a smaller, cheap(ish) EV with decent range, the Chevy Bolt (used) is basically the only option, and honestly can be had for less than any equivalent ICE vehicle of similar quality/mileage

  • Tesla claims not to sell or transfer the data they collect, and offer opt-outs from most of it. You can, if you are willing to void your warranty, remove the GSM/LTE module from a Tesla fairly straightforwardly.