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Comment by menaerus

10 months ago

"get statistics" is not what TPC-B does. Nor the invalid queries nor ...

From https://www.tpc.org/tpcb/, a TPC-B workload that pgbench runs by default:

    In August 1990, the TPC approved its second benchmark, TPC-B. In contrast to TPC-A, TPC-B is not an OLTP benchmark. Rather, TPC-B can be looked at as a database stress test, characterized by:

      Significant disk input/output
      Moderate system and application execution time
      Transaction integrity

    TPC-B measures throughput in terms of how many transactions per second a system can perform. Because there are substantial differences between the two benchmarks (OLTP vs. database stress test), TPC-B results cannot be compared to TPC-A.

    ...

    Transactions are submitted by programs all executing concurrently.

I think you missed the context of what I was responding to, which was about whether databases could even have micro-benchmarks.

You also missed the word "Obsolete" splattered all over the website you sent me, and the text that TPC-B was "Obsolete as of 6/6/95".

  • I don't think I have. I was only responding to the factually incorrect statement of yours that pgbench is a microbenchmark.

    > which was about whether databases could even have micro-benchmarks.

    No, this was an argument of yours that you pulled out out of nowhere. The topic very specifically was about the pgbench and not whether or not databases can have micro-benchmarks. Obvious answer is, yes, they can as any other software out there.

    I think that you kinda tried to imply that pgbench was one of such micro-benchmarks in disguise and which is why I c/p the description which proves that it is not.

    > You also missed the word "Obsolete"

    I did not since that was not the topic being discussed at all. And in a technical sense, it doesn't matter at all. pgbench still runs so it is very much "not obsolete".

    • I didn't pull this argument out of nowhere, please read the direct comment I was replying to. Your position is also completely untenable: this benchmark was obsoleted by its creators 29 years ago, who very clearly say it is obsolete, and you're arguing that it isn't because it "still runs."

      I'm guessing that this discussion would be more productive if you would please say who you are and the company you work for. I'm Brendan Gregg, I work for Intel, and I'm well known in the performance space. Who are you?

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