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Comment by ineedaj0b

2 years ago

You can buy an android. It’s not hard. You can eliminate all your problems. The solution exists. I do find any further argument temping when not only can you buy an Android, you can buy a cheaper phone that does all the same things.

I do not angry when I use Netflix and the program I wanna watch is on Hulu. I do not complain to Hulu. They offer a app/website and I can buy it that very day. You can, this very day, buy an Android

I wish everything good was free too and I only had one app and one computer OS and didn’t have to choose between car brands too but that’s not Reality

How does buying an android fix the issues surrounding the green bubble? How does buying an android let you use an apple watch? How does buying an android fix all the cross dependencies of super apps that would be utilised between android and iphones?

To fix the apple issue in the US you don't need to buy 1 android phone you need to buy 175 million of them (and, to apple's credit, not the cheaper ones if you want to match apple performance)... or you could enforce the law to curtail the more aggregious of apple's anti-competitive behaviours.

I do use an Android. Doesn't mean I can't point out glaringly obvious issues across the pond. Apple's decisions affect me regardless:

- If I develop an app and want to port it to an Apple device, I need to spend a ton of money on devices from their ecosystem to do so or else I miss out on their whole market.

- Members of my close family use iPhones and will ask me for help with things like getting videos off of them. Lock-in features like iCloud make it extraordinarily difficult and prevents them from getting an Android without leaving their things behind.

- Apple has enough market pull that if they do something user-hostile for money and walk away unpunished legally, others in the market tend to copy them. See the headphone jack issue and how Samsung and Google have dropped it.

- When my family sends me videos over text they look terrible. It's a small thing, but considering that the Beeper Mini thing revealed how easy it would be for Apple to just not actively break iMessage solutions, it's pretty annoying.

Being able to use your own software on your own device is not a fantasyland, it is the default for most devices. Apple is a standout exception and it is insane to me that Apple users will shrug that off with "well, that's just reality," because it clearly isn't. It is a conscious decision by Apple to block you from owning your device and you are rolling over and taking it.

  • > Apple has enough market pull that if they do something user-hostile for money and walk away unpunished legally, others in the market tend to copy them. See the headphone jack issue and how Samsung and Google have dropped it.

    Great point. For many years Google police was that in app purchases, if you were not using Googles play service to handle them for you, were allowed and without any Google tax. That meant that the Kindle app on Android allowed you to buy books. After they changed their policy to be more like Apples, now I need to open the browser to buy a book. Why should either Apple or Google get ANYTHING from me buying a book from Amazon? Do they own me or something?

The solution to "this device engages in bad/anticonsumer behaviour" is not "buy something else" when the said device is 60% of all devices in its category (smartphones) sold. The only true solution is to either petition Apple to stop it, or like in this case, use the available laws. Apple isn't the first company trying to pull a fast one nor will it be the last.

What an asinine comment. What you are basically saying is to buy an iPhone to use with friends that use iPhone and then buy an Android to use with friends that have an Android phone or that you pick your friends based on their phone.

Because you cannot have only one of them and not either have a problem or cause a problem for others. So which of those are you? The one that cause problems?

  • Can you not call iPhones with an android? You can receive text messages too?

    • >You can receive text messages too

      Not really. It isn't that simple, which you'd know if you read only a few comments here. For example, my mother has only one friend with an iPhone. Of all her friends, she is the only one she cannot send images to directly. Her friends iPhone refuses and sends back an "image too large" SMS error message. The only way to get the iPhone to accept the image is to first reduce it in size via an app. Huawei, OnePlus, Samsung, Nokia - they all send and receive just fine (most on the same provider as the iPhone) but if the same image is sent from the iPhone the problem disappears, unless you try to send it back, then the error message reappears.

      Then there's all the iMessage versus SMS/MMS/RCS green/blue issues. Read the comments. Apple is using lots of small dirty tricks.

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