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Comment by ein0p

2 years ago

Does Israel care about international law? Because I’m seeing a lot of dead and wounded toddlers.

If Israel didn't care about international law, all of Gaza would now be a smoking crater and the death toll would be an order of magnitude higher.

  • It seems that you're claiming the only way to violate international law is to bomb all their people at once.

    This is very wrong.

    Targeting hospitals without clear proof of military activity is against international law. As is collective punishment, using starvation as a weapon of war, and many other things which are currently being livestreamed to the world.

    If you understand a topic this poorly, why not read a little about it before 'contributing' to the discussion?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/30/uk-government-...

    When even Tory lawyers are telling their government that they are arming a genocidal state and need to stop immediately or be liable for war crimes...

    • I'm convinced that there's no way to fight a war without pissing someone off.

      Even more so, it's impossible to fight an _assymetric_ war without pissing a lot of people off.

      > Targeting hospitals without clear proof of military activity is against international law.

      What's "clear proof" is in the eye of the beholder.

      > As is collective punishment, using starvation as a weapon of war

      I'm actually willing to give Israel the benefit of doubt here, as they actually have no experience whatsoever in coordinating large scale aid deliveries, even if delays somewhat further their goal of punishing palestinians.

      > UK government lawyers say Israel is breaking international law, claims top Tory in leaked recording

      So what? Every major player on the world stage breaks international law whenever they damn well please, UK, US, Israel, China, Russia, they all do, to the point where in my eyes "x is breaking international law" is a completely worthless statement. Nobody is really going to do anything about it if you're on the right side of the new iron curtain.

      This might be very cynical from me, but honestly, can you name the last time when the words “international law” carried any real weight?

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Israel does care about international law. A lot.

The IDF has lawyers involved in many targeting decisions and other decisions. There is a department dedicated to it: https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/military-advocate-general-s...

podcast: "The Lawyer who Advises the IDF on Law of War issues in Gaza"

https://law-disrupted.fm/idf-lawyer-advises-war-gaza-militar...

Now whether the right-wing soldier who has seen his friends murdered in a music festival and has been sent in with a tank into Gaza care? Very likely less so. Does every member of this right wing government care? Likely less. However the independent court system in Israel can also enforce the various conventions Israel is a signatory to (e.g. the Geneva convention). The situation where young soldiers are in Gaza armed to the teeth fighting an enemy that blends in with civilians is the creation of Hamas.

If Israel follows international law 100% you will still see a lot dead toddlers in this kind of warfare. So just that fact doesn't prove much.