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Comment by surume

2 years ago

+972 magazine is EXTREMELY anti-Israel and anti-semitic, so this article is written through the lens of despising Israel and Jews. Here are some of their other article titles, which you can find on their home page:

1. Hebrew University’s Faculty of Repressive Science 2. The spiraling absurdity of Germany’s pro-Israel fanaticism 3. The first step toward disintegrating Israel’s settler machine

As such, their view is not at all balanced or even-handed. Objective truth obviously matters very little to them since they exhibit such open bias and loathing towards Israel and the Jewish people.

None of those articles are anti-Semitic.

  • Actually they are. The Jewish people IS Israel and Israel is the Jewish people. To loath Israel is to loath Jews, which is why you see violent pro-Hamas protests at synagogues around the world now. It is understood and ubiquitously accepted that the enemy of "anti-Zionists" are all Jews, and yes, many anti-Zionists are Jews themselves.

    • Israel is a state and Jewish people are an ethnicity/religion. It is nonsensical to suggest that they are synonymous — what other country in the world can you say that a country is identical to its people? If I criticise the Chinese Communist Party I’m not guilty of Sinophobia, why is Israel any different?

      When Israel does something wrong, like kill civilians and/or foreign aid workers, do the Jewish people all over the world collectively bear the guilt of it? Obviously not. You can’t have it both ways.

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Do the IDF analysts who are being interviewed also despise Israel and the Jewish people?

  • Yes. We have very anti-Israel intelligence officers who are politically placed on the far left. Just because you're Israeli doesnt mean that you're pro Israel. Same for the IDF (which Im a soldier in). Just by speaking to a heavily biased paper like 972 they show their own bias against the country. I serve with several soldiers who are more supportive of the Palestinians than their own country.

    • Interesting. I would imagine it's counter productive to have conscription of left leaning Israelis who don't support the war in Gaza, no? Why would these people have such important jobs within the military if they are so anti-Israel?

      Also, The Guardian corroborated +972's reporting on this matter recently: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai...

      And, while I have you I had a few questions, if you don't mind:

      1. What drove the IDF's intelligence failure on Hamas activity before Oct 7?

      2. With or without intelligence, why was the IDF unable to defend such an important security zone? One that I'd argue is world class, in terms of technology, troops, and arms.

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