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Comment by ben_w

2 years ago

> Try answering: is Israel's response proportionate and acceptable or not?

I believe not.

You'd already know that if you'd bothered to read what I wrote instead of whinging about it.

I don't know that my beliefs are correct, 'cause I'm not trained in law, politics, or warfare, and the whole thing is surrounded by propaganda. If you call my self-awareness "a lack of clarity", you're hubristic.

Your turn. Answer me this: Who did I call the elephants, and who did I call the grass?

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_a_a_a_  2 years ago

> You'd already know that if you'd bothered to read what I wrote instead of whinging about it.

I'll openly admit that I often don't read things carefully but in this case I don't believe you were making things clear at all. Quoting stuff in Greek to me doesn't actually help comprehension.

> Your turn. Answer me this: Who did I call the elephants, and who did I call the grass?

You said "My position[0] is: When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers" which you then said of "(Answer: civilians are the grass, combatants are the elephants — and it case even that was not clear, note that I did not say whose civilians and whose combatants, this is deliberated because the answer to that is simply "yes")."

And this is a relevant because you are trying to spread the blame among civilians, instead of clearly saying which civilians.

The Hamas attack on civilians killed/injured about 4,600 I think <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israe...>

As of yesterday, over 33,000 Palestinians had been killed and 75,000 injured. There is deliberate starvation brewing over there and the hospitals had been mostly or entirely smashed. Israel has committed war crimes. The IDF are turning a blind eye or even helping illegal settlers on Palestinian land. There's more.

Just because there is blame on both sides doesn't mean the blame is equal on both sides.