Comment by jraph
1 year ago
So to clarify, you mean cis people caring too much about their gender being hostile towards LGBTQIA+ people / people not caring about their gender and causing discrimination?
then I'm with you, a part of the problem is there.
Actually this doesn't match your first sentence, trans people pretty much care about their gender. I believe only a part of the non conforming people don't care about their gender.
Anecdote but as a cis male not caring about his gender, I never quite felt hostility against me in particular (against the male gender, sure, but I understand this hostility)
No. Read my posts again. I didn't say "cis" or "trans".
I know you didn't but at this point I don't understand what you mean, or I'm really wrong on my interpretation on your use of the "non-conforming" qualifier.
I'm confused by your comments so I'm trying to clarify by making things more explicit.
To me, "non-conforming" here means LGBTQIA+. "cis" is the closest thing to "conforming". "trans" is pretty much "non-conforming". I suspect we are not agreeing on this. What do you mean by "they" and "non-conforming"? If we don't agree on those words, it most likely follows that I don't agree with your following sentence "This results in the discrimination you speak of."
I did not mean "non-conforming" like having a non-conforming identity. I meant "non-conforming" because im ignorant of the expectations of my peers and i transgress their expectations unintentionally. I sort of do not have a mental concept of masculinity and femininity so my transgressions bring no discomfort to me, but to some others.
This is very abstract. An practical example: Answering "How would i know?" to "What are your pronouns?" will get you this kind of covert hostility.
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